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Date:      Mon, 11 Jan 2010 07:18:04 -0700
From:      Tim Judd <tajudd@gmail.com>
To:        David Southwell <david@vizion2000.net>
Cc:        Anton Shterenlikht <mexas@bristol.ac.uk>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: denying spam hosts ssh access - good idea?
Message-ID:  <ade45ae91001110618w76abd4cdrf95470712aabefac@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <201001111408.43361.david@vizion2000.net>
References:  <20100111140105.GI61025@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <201001111408.43361.david@vizion2000.net>

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On 1/11/10, David Southwell <david@vizion2000.net> wrote:
>> I'm thinking of denying ssh access to host from which
>> I get brute force ssh attacks.
>>
>> HOwever, I see in /etc/hosts.allow:
>>
>> # Wrapping sshd(8) is not normally a good idea, but if you
>> # need to do it, here's how
>> #sshd : .evil.cracker.example.com : deny
>>
>> Why is it not a good idea?
>>
>> Also, apparently in older ssh there was DenyHosts option,
>> but no longer in the current version.
>> Is there a replacement for DenyHOsts?
>> Or is there a good reason for such option not to be used?
>>
>> many thanks
>> anton
>>
> I use denyhosts ( /usr/ports/security/denyhosts ) works well for me. I also
> use blackhole and sshguard
>
> david


I've been meaning to check this out.  My firewall ssh rules are very
strict, in fact, if the remote IP is "unknown" meaning, I don't know
where the heck it's coming from, it's blocked.  It's easier to say it
this way:  I allow ssh connections from IPs I know, preferably static
IPs.

Given that there are more than one general blacklists out there that
list unwanted behavior, and that we have ports that make use of these
lists, I wonder if we can use a list (in this case, for spam)
effective for blocking ssh connections.  This means:
  install spamd
  setup pf (requirement for spamd, it is built by OpenBSD after all)
  in the pf rules, block *ANYTHING* coming from the blacklisted IPs


I don't know how effective it is, but since the spamd blacklist IPs
are hosted on what seems to be only one server/server farm, I am also
looking for any way I can provide a mirror (even if it's slightly
outdated) of this data.


--Tim



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