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Date:      Sun, 5 May 1996 00:56:03 -0700 (PDT)
From:      System Administrator <yankee@anna.az.com>
To:        Brian Wang <brian@mail.vividnet.com>
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Weird system security output
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.91.960505005530.22646A-100000@anna.az.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.91.960504115115.9617A-100000@taurus.vividnet.com>

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I have encounter similar events without any good leads.

On Sat, 4 May 1996, Brian Wang wrote:

> 	After searching the mail archives, I found the following posted 
> question without replies.  I'd love some replies though.
> 
> > Subject: unaccounted-for mtime and ctime changes on SUID root programs
> > To: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD questions)
> > Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:36:26 -0600 (CST)
> > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25]
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org
> > Precedence: bulk
> >
> > A few times with FreeBSD 2.0.5 and now twice with FreeBSD 2.1(CD),
> > the nightly security check has revealed SUID root programs whose
> > modification times have changed.  I have immediately put in the
> > backup tapes, pulled down the original files, and compared them.
> > Every time, they have been identical (which is something of a relief
> > to know that worms or trojan horses are not being left around), but
> > I have to wonder how this is happening, and whether it may be an
> > indication of something sinister but more subtle going on (like someone
> > changing the programs, doing their mischief, and then changing them
> > back).
> 
> 	Just last night, I'm having the same problem described above again
> (It occured couple of times before).  Somehow, the date stamp gets altered
> for no reason...a compromised system?  Again, checking the binary file
> from the backup/cdrom yielded nothing.  The following is a nightly
> security check output from one of our server.  Is there a rational
> explanation for this?  Thanks in advance for any help/answer!
> 
> 	Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 02:00:03 -0700 (PDT)
> 	From: System Administrator <root@mail.vividnet.com>
> 	Subject: aquarius security check output
> 
> 	checking setuid files and devices:
> 	aquarius setuid/device diffs:
> 	1c1
> 	< -r-xr-sr-x  1 bin   operator   65536 Nov 16 01:43:41 1995 /bin/df
> 	---
> 	> -r-xr-sr-x  1 bin   operator   65536 May  3 02:22:47 1996 /bin/df
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Brian Wang
> 



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