Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:54:56 +0100 From: Paul Robinson <paul@iconoplex.co.uk> To: Jordan Hubbard <jkh@apple.com> Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A modest proposal for better errno values... Message-ID: <20030519105456.GE50427@iconoplex.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <E371408A-8520-11D7-8900-000393BB9222@apple.com> References: <E371408A-8520-11D7-8900-000393BB9222@apple.com>
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BEEP BEEP This thread is moving to -chat BEEP BEEP This thread is moving to -chat BEEP BEEP On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 01:57:13AM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > Now, before I start here, let me just acknowledge up-front that what > I'm about to raise is prime bike-shed material of the first order. It <snip> Well, the guys on the sidelines thought it was funny. From NTK (http://www.ntk.net - tagline "THEY STOLE OUR REVOLUTION. NOW WE'RE STEALING IT BACK." which should be the FreeBSD tagline whenever Linux guys are in the room. We should carry munitions too to deal with ESR) is the following. I should point out the "similar tizzy" they refer to at the top is about the Mozilla/Firebird fiasco which is the previous item in their little e-pamphlet. <start quote> Readers with long memories may recall Carl Sagan getting into a similar tizzy about an internal Apple project that shared his name - until he threatened to sue. Apple's coders renamed the project's title to "Butthead Astronomer", which strangely failed to mollify him. Perhaps that explains some of the background of the next naming war: Apple asking the FreeBSD hackers to change the #definition of one of their error codes. Apparently, EDOOFUS has "raised eyebrows" at the corporation, and they've refused to accept the merge into Darwin ("a little more in-your-face than ... 'die_you_gravy_sucking_pigdog()'", apparently). Among the suggested replacements in the subsequent bikeshed discussion was EBUTTHEAD, and a note that in an old Apple II incarnation, STUPID stood for "Student Programmer ID". They settled on EDONTPANIC. At least, until the Estate of Douglas Adams puts up a fight. http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=86207+0+current/freebsd-hackers - CORPORATE CENSORSHIP! Put EDOOFUS on bittorrent! http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/freebsd-hackers.html - and other Apple titbits <end quote> I have to say, I think the thread as a whole worked out - the change was made, no bikeshed materialised. I think that's a real shame. I enjoy -hackers and -chat getting a regular mailbombing by people who should know better. (note the tongue firmly placed in side of my cheek...) I suggest that to get this thread really going, we now talk about Douglas Adams' estate challenging the errno value (see above), why having a daemon for a logo offends the church (see -chat since time began), who the hell does Theo think he is (wrong project...) and how the USofA is a jolly nasty place for bullying lots of people into the neo-conservative nightmare (wrong century?) and to get things motoring nicely, I shall begin by asking WHY ISN'T CORE DOING ANYTHING ABOUT ANY OF THIS ???!?!?!? I'm joking... of course... BEEP BEEP This thread has moved to -chat BEEP BEEP This thread has moved to -chat -- Paul Robinson
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