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Date:      Sun, 20 Aug 2000 15:11:01 +0100
From:      "Koster, K.J." <K.J.Koster@kpn.com>
To:        "'nate@yogotech.com'" <nate@yogotech.com>, 'Greg Lewis' <glewis@trc.adelaide.edu.au>
Cc:        freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: JCK License implications (was: State of Server-Side Java)
Message-ID:  <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D77CF@l04.research.kpn.com>

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> 
> Basically, we need folks who are actively pursuing and
> *fixing* bugs, not just folks who are willing to beta test
> the product and just watch over our shoulders to see how
> we're doing.
>
> Having done this whole open-source/freeware thing for ~6
> years, there are *always* lots of the latter, and few of the
> former.
>
There is a third group, which I believe myself to be part of. I've been
hanging between "I can do this" and "it's just too hard" for a long time
(not just JDK porting, but FreeBSD hacking in general). Since I'm a fairly
ordinary guy, I figure there are a lot of people who are stuck in that
position.

That is why I have set up my JDK web pages in the form that I have. My
intention is to lower the beam for people on the latter group to enter the
former group.

For example: I can't write Alpha assembler, so necessarily I am not in the
active group. However, I can read enough C and x86 assembler to be able to
talk about what it should do. I hope that this will be the stepping stone
for someone else to move from being an onlooker into doing some actual work.

>
> However, in order to minimize the # of folks who have access
> to Sun's licensed materials, we have to show that these folks
> have a reason to be involved, other than just wanting to see
> the work in progress.
> 
Limiting the number of people who have access to the work in progress is
exactly the opposite from what I'm trying to do. Doing that would raise the
beam again. It would also make true your observation that there are only two
groups, because it blocks onlookers from crossing over into the active
group.

Perhaps I'm just being naive here. What do you think?

    Kees Jan

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