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Date:      Sun, 10 Nov 2002 02:33:55 -0700 (MST)
From:      Nick Rogness <nick@rogness.net>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        Larry Sica <lomifeh@earthlink.net>, <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Filesystem corruption 
Message-ID:  <20021110022411.N75268-100000@skywalker.rogness.net>
In-Reply-To: <45812.1036861207@critter.freebsd.dk>

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On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

> In message <FFCEB30D-F403-11D6-BCF2-000393A335A2@earthlink.net>, Larry Sica wri
> tes:
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> >Not sure if hackers is the correct place to ask about this but...
> >
> >On Friday, November 8, 2002, at 06:28 PM, Nick Rogness wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> We have a server that is doing some wierd things.  /var/mail filesystem
> >> (/dev/idad2s1e)  is reporting errors during certain tasks (like dump).
> >> It does fsck clean umounted.  I have yet to see this type of error and
> >> can't tell whether this is a bug or a hardware problem:
> >>
> >> Nov  8 15:41:20 pop1 /kernel: dscheck(#idad/0x20014): negative b_blkno
> >> -791620152
> >> Nov  8 15:41:20 pop1 /kernel: dscheck(#idad/0x20014): negative b_blkno
> >
> >I've seen mention of this before, not sure what the fix was.  I heard
> >about this a few years ago on some quantam drives, the guy updated his
> >firmware and it went away iirc.  Does it do this only when you dump or
> >under other circumstances?  If other circumstances, which ones?
>
> The fix is to not run dump(8) on a live filesystem.  You should
> either use a snapshot or umount the device.

	I've been running dump for years on live filesystems with FreeBSD
	and never had a problem.  I was not aware of any snapshot feature
	available for 4.X-STABLE (only 5.0)?

	umounting a live filesystem to back it up is not a solution.  What
	should I be using to backup a live filesystem?


Nick Rogness <nick@rogness.net>
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