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Date:      Sun, 25 May 2003 17:48:23 +1000
From:      Joshua Goodall <joshua@roughtrade.net>
To:        Ruslan Ermilov <ru@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Updating -CURRENT, what about outdated files?
Message-ID:  <20030525074823.GK91207@roughtrade.net>
In-Reply-To: <20030524174817.GA42456@sunbay.com>
References:  <20030523203517.GA93787@attbi.com> <20030524034419.GA63643@sunbay.com> <20030524084432.GA509@roughtrade.net> <20030524174817.GA42456@sunbay.com>

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On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 08:48:17PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 06:44:32PM +1000, Joshua Goodall wrote:
> > On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 06:44:19AM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > > I do this a lot too.  And I use "find . -mtime +1 ! -type d" to
> > > seek for the stale stuff.  This of course requires that you're
> > > not running with ``INSTALL="install -C"'' in /etc/make.conf.
> > 
> > Is there any part of installworld that uses tools other than
> > rm, mtree, install and ln?
> > 
> Sure, a lot of.  We use all tools that are copied into the
> ${INSTALLTMP} as the first step of installworld.

I must correct myself.

I should have written "Is there any part of installworld where
files/dirs/links are installed using tools other than ..."

Actually the total list seems really short to me;

[ awk cat chflags chmod chown date echo egrep find grep
ln make mkdir mtree mv pwd_mkdb rm sed sh sysctl
test true uname wc zic

I can think of three methods;

i)   a simple wrapper that attempts to parse the subset of
     invocations used by installworld, and maintain a log,
ii)  an LD_PRELOAD-based wrapper, taking advantage of recent
     dynamic linkage changes,
iii) building installation editions of those tools, so that they 
     maintain a log of activity.

Obviously not all are attractive.

> Some files are only installed if the destination does not yet
> exist, and there you are going to have a problem with this
> approarch.

Either way, the file exists.  I wasn't looking for anything more
sophisticated than that in a first pass at this.

Other than the general case of using install -C, can you
point out any specific examples?  I thought that was the point
of mergemaster; to manage elements of the distribution where
simply overwriting would be inappropriate.

J

-- 
Joshua Goodall                                      "tea makes itself"
joshua@roughtrade.net                                       - Ana Susanj



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