Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:52:57 +0200 From: Sisantha Godawela-Ohle <ekerberos@web.de> To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-chat Digest, Vol 256, Issue 2 Message-ID: <595577610@web.de>
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Hello! pl. someone tell me how to reinstall libkrb5.so.9, as i mistakenly remove = it ( by installing Postgree or pureFTPd got the message that this should b= e deinstall!!) Now i`m unable to log or start gnome-session but only kde! thanks for any positive solution. regards, Sisantha PS. version os is freebsd7.0=20 > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Gesendet: 23.04.08 14:01:21 > An: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Betreff: freebsd-chat Digest, Vol 256, Issue 2 > Send freebsd-chat mailing list submissions to > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org >=20 > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > freebsd-chat-request@freebsd.org >=20 > You can reach the person managing the list at > freebsd-chat-owner@freebsd.org >=20 > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of freebsd-chat digest..." >=20 >=20 > Today's Topics: >=20 > 1. Re: port management practices (Brian) > 2. Re: port management practices (christopher) > 3. Re: port management practices (Ravna) > 4. Re: port management practices (Matthew D. Fuller) > 5. Re: port management practices (christopher) >=20 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:02:06 -0700 > From: Brian <bri@brianwhalen.net> > Subject: Re: port management practices > To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <480DFDEE.5020303@brianwhalen.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed >=20 > Jason C. Wells wrote: > > I don't. > > > > It's too much work. I don't update ports for the duration of a major=20 > > release's life. What ever ports came out for 6.3 (that's when I quit=20 > > trying to manage ports) are typically what I am running. When 7.1 is=20 > > released (I don't run x.0 releases) I will reinstall ports based on a=20 > > homegrown script and a couple text files. > > > > My response is brief but I'll tell you I have tried everything. There=20 > > was much suffering that went into my ports management method. I'm much= =20 > > happier now. I spend more time using my computers and less time=20 > > maintaining them. > > > > The problem is non-trivial. I am curious how -ports folks maintain=20 > > their sanity. That's a phenomena worth studying. > > > > Regards, > > Jason > > > > > I suppose this is relative to the number of ports installed, but it=20 > really isnt that difficult under normal circumstances. If you have one=20 > that needs to be treated differently, then ask why does it indeed to be=20 > treated differently and is it worth it. Over the last few years, I have= =20 > had very few problems where portsnap followed by portupgrade didn't=20 > work. The dependency problems are the toughest, the last one of those=20 > I had I fixed with portmanager. For me, a goal worth pursuing is to=20 > make it easier, so you don't need to be a longterm user to figure out=20 > how to easily update system and/or ports, it should be a little easier=20 > AND apparent; even Microsoft and Redhat tell you when there are updates=20 > to be applied. >=20 > Brian >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:12:45 -0700 > From: christopher <skeptikos@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: port management practices > To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <20080422091245.818e3e86.skeptikos@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUS-ASCII >=20 > On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:02:06 -0700 > Brian <bri@brianwhalen.net> wrote: >=20 > > Jason C. Wells wrote: > > > I don't. > > > > > > It's too much work. I don't update ports for the duration of a=20 >=20 > > I suppose this is relative to the number of ports installed, but it=20 > > really isnt that difficult under normal circumstances. If you have on= e=20 > > that needs to be treated differently, then ask why does it indeed to b= e=20 > > treated differently and is it worth it. Over the last few years, I ha= ve=20 > > had very few problems where portsnap followed by portupgrade didn't=20 > > work. The dependency problems are the toughest, the last one of thos= e=20 > > I had I fixed with portmanager. For me, a goal worth pursuing is to=20 > > make it easier, so you don't need to be a longterm user to figure out=20 > > how to easily update system and/or ports, it should be a little easier= =20 > > AND apparent; even Microsoft and Redhat tell you when there are update= s=20 > > to be applied. >=20 > I've kind of taken to the same practice as Jason by > sticking with things once my system is up and running. > It worked for me very well and it kept me with 5.4 for > quite a long time. When I did do upgrades, I actually > reinstalled them all by doing pkg=5Fdelete -a. >=20 > I checked out the ports TODO, and there were some > interesting things there, but nothing topical for my > original query. >=20 > I finally upgraded to 7.0, and that's when I ran into > just the one issue with openoffice, actually cups is > still giving me some issues, but that's not as vital. I > use my system as a desktop, so there is gimp, > openoffice, kde (for when my gf needs to use my > computer), inkscape and a bunch of multimedia stuff. > Some people say that FreeBSD isn't good, nor intended > to be run as a desktop, but I am actually quite happy > with it ~ Chris >=20 > --=20 > christopher <skeptikos@gmail.com> >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:29:49 +0200 > From: Ravna <ravna@nerdshack.com> > Subject: Re: port management practices > To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <480E66DD.4040008@nerdshack.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed >=20 > It's my philosophy, that a little each day, is better than lots, once in= =20 > a while. > Cron updates my ports tree every night and does a "portupgrade -a" =20 > after that. > The output is saved to a file, so I can deal with problems. > I do a "buildworld/buildkernel" every week, if there are changes in the=20 > source. > Nothing has ever been older than a few days. > I don't see why my box should be bored while I'm asleep. > It's always on, anyway. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:49:56 -0500 > From: "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@over-yonder.net> > Subject: Re: port management practices > To: christopher <skeptikos@gmail.com> > Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <20080422224956.GV67042@over-yonder.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii >=20 > On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 09:17:17PM -0700 I heard the voice of > christopher, and lo! it spake thus: > >=20 > > I know about csup, portupgrade, etc., and I think they are great, > > but if you only have one app that you want to upgrade because it was > > buggy at a previous time, then it doesn't seem like a practical > > undertaking when you consider all of the other apps involved and the > > build times for things such as openoffice and kde. >=20 > But it's usually not necessary to rebuild all the other apps. >=20 > Certainly the deeper you go into dependancies, the greater the risk of > downstream impact; a lot of things depend on libX11, so updating that > may require rebuilding a lot of things. But the closer you get to the > leaves, the less the issue is. >=20 > I'm fairly sure I've *NEVER* used 'portupgrade -a'. I always use > portversion to spit out the list of outdated things, and pick and > choose what I update when. Wine takes a long time to build, so I > usually hold that off 'till I don't mind nailing the system up for an > hour or so. Some things I have local patches to, so I do them > manually later. Deeper bits with a lot of things depending on them I > save until I'll have a bit of time to deal with potential fallout > (which is surprisingly rare, considering the complexity of the system; > a great testament to the work of the maintainers). A lot of things I > just drop into the todo list and fire off whenever they come up. >=20 >=20 > I've had hiccups and oopses, but on the whole, it works very smoothly, > and has for many years on many systems. I always hear these horror > stories from people, but they keep obstinately refusing to happen to > me. Life's rough sometimes 8-} >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net > Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ > On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream. >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:04:18 -0700 > From: christopher <skeptikos@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: port management practices > To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <20080422200418.6afcdc84.skeptikos@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUS-ASCII >=20 > On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:29:49 +0200 > Ravna <ravna@nerdshack.com> wrote: >=20 > > It's my philosophy, that a little each day, is better than lots, once = in=20 > > a while. > > Cron updates my ports tree every night and does a "portupgrade -a" =20 > > after that. > > The output is saved to a file, so I can deal with problems. > > I do a "buildworld/buildkernel" every week, if there are changes in th= e=20 > > source. >=20 > Wow, that's bold. I have to say, that while it seems > to make sense, I'm pretty scared of trying it out. I > would hate to think that I wake up and openoffice > doesn't work for the paper I have to write. One of these > days when I get an extra machine up and running, I'll > be sure to try it though. >=20 > --=20 > christopher <skeptikos@gmail.com> >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > End of freebsd-chat Digest, Vol 256, Issue 2 > ******************************************** >=20 =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F In 5 Schritten zur eigenen Homepage. Jetzt Domain sichern und gestalten!=20 Nur 3,99 EUR/Monat! http://www.maildomain.web.de/=3Fmc=3D021114
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