Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:00:05 -0500 From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> To: Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDInstall ISO images Message-ID: <AANLkTim5TQ4XpAmZ=b7MrQ47-MGDjoepojX2ZioTPmfG@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D28EB32.9090807@freebsd.org> References: <4D28EB32.9090807@freebsd.org>
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On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>wr= ote: > I've spent some time integrating bsdinstall into startup of install CDs, > mostly related to building useful live-CD-based installers. An i386 image > can be found here (other architectures may follow, as my very slow DSL li= ne > permits): > > http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-i386-20110108.iso.bz2<ht= tp://people.freebsd.org/%7Enwhitehorn/bsdinstall-i386-20110108.iso.bz2> > > The source for this can be found at: > > svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/user/nwhitehorn/bsdinstall > > The bits related to live CD usage are the testsystem.sh and rc.local file= s. > Instead of running sysinstall as an init replacement, I have written a sm= all > rc.local script that gives the user the option to either start the > installer, open a single-user-mode style shell, or to continue to boot to= a > multi-user live CD. Also, instead of the md root used by sysinstall, this > just boots from the CD directly. This prevents the need for sysinstall's > media selection, since the distribution files are in the mounted root fil= e > system. > > I would appreciate any comments or test results. > -Nathan > I tried to install the .iso . Here is my steps . The main board : Intel DG 945 WHMKR PS/2 mouse PS/2 keyboard Samsung Syncmaster 2233SN 1920 x 1080 LCD ( VGA port ) monitor . No hard disk attached ( Power disconnected ) Installer started . After displaying Welcome ... Installer , Shell , Live C= D , keyboard and mouse are frozen . The computer started with Reset button . Mouse cursor disappeared , but keyboard worked on install Welcome dialog . Before starting installation , Seagate Desktop Expansion Hard Disk has been attached to a USB port . ugen2.2 ... umass0 ... da0 ... messages have overwrite =C2=B4Installer , Shell , Live CD=C2=B4 line of dia= log . By pressing Left Arrow and Right Arrow , recovered the dialog selection lin= e . Installer has been selected . Host name has been asked , but any name structure is not explained , such a= s a single name or with another name . ( For personal installs , there is no administrator other than installer , there is no other person to ask anything . ) A single word is given and reached to the Partition Editor . In the Seagate Expansion drive , there was Mandriva Linux as installed . ( Pressing red letters in the Partition Editor is not working . It is necessary to come over the item to be selected and press Enter . ) When Create is selected Add Partition dialog displayed . Label : This is a known concept . A more descriptive sentence may be used = . Mount Point : What is =C2=A8Mount Point" ? I assumed / would be correct . Pressing Ok displayed Error : Invalid argument . Size =C2=B4195454664=C2=B4 Ok I have deleted / symbol from =C2=A8Mount point=C2=A8 and pressed Enter . The above error displayed . I have selected Edit . Warning displayed . I have selected Yes . Partition Scheme menu displayed . I thought =C2=B4BSD labels=C2=B4 would be good . I have selected it . Returned to Partition Editor . I have pressed Create . Displayed Add Partition dialog . Pressing Ok , displayed the above error message . By entering =C2=B4Edit=C2=B4 , I have deleted existing partitions . I have pressed Finished . Dialog =C2=B4Confirmation=C2=B4 displayed . Yes entered . Initialize dialog displayed . After that =C2=B4Abort=C2=B4 dialog displayed : You canceled ... Restart entered . After repeating the above steps , Exit selected because =C2=B4Abort=C2=B4 d= ialog . Result : Failure . My suggestions : 1. Please select an audience of installer : Elementary school students . High school school students . University students . University graduates Computer engineers . FreeBSD experts , or others . Use a language and steps that these may be easily followed by the installer= s 2. Before displaying a menu for selection , please check the validity of items to be selected , and display only VALID items . Doing display first , and making checks after selection is causing complete failures sometimes . 3. Please use explanatory sentences as sufficiently long . On the screen , there are at least 80 x 25 =3D 2000 characters available . 4. Lowering the level of prior knowledge about FreeBSD will increase adoption of it by more inexperienced users . 5. Studying installation of other operating systems may be helpful . It is not necessary to copy their copy-righted material , but ideas may utilized = . In that respect , my first suggestions , in order of easiness would be Mandriva , Fedora , Debian Linux , PC-BSD . Thank you very much for your efforts and contributions . Please accept my ideas only for toward contribution to remedy difficulties and to make a mor= e easily usable installer . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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