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Date:      Sun, 16 Jun 2013 17:47:19 +0300
From:      Alaksiej <ac@belngo.info>
Cc:        freebsd-geom <freebsd-geom@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: geli external header (metadata)
Message-ID:  <CAHsZcQHLNsoKmffWVHn0DTZSjFAHRDwoOZXZ%2BXaFuh1KRLBH2w@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1306091442080.80438@badger.tharned.org>
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>I can't speak for Mr Romero, but I imagine what he's after is plausible >deniability.  The GELI metadata on a volume unambiguously declares it to >be encrypted data.

Agree. And I think this feature is in demand, taking into account
growing number of jurisdictions, where a person could be legally
obliged to surrender keys/passwords.

On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Greg Rivers
<gcr+freebsd-geom@tharned.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Jun 2013, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jun 08, 2013 at 03:02:10PM +0300, Andrew Romero wrote:
>> > Hi all
>> > I made a patch to support of external header (metadata) on GEOM ELI
>> > (geli)
>> > > System: FreeBSD 9-STABLE r250964 i386
>> > > geli patch - http://pastebin.com/UGpnMN19
>> > regresion patch - http://pastebin.com/hJVkTpJZ
>>
>> I don't mean to discourage you, but every additional complexity comes at
>> risk and it case of GELI this is security risk. What is missing in your work
>> is explanation how it that useful for the users? How do you use it? First I
>> need to understand and be convinced that this functionality is generally
>> useful and thus is worth additional complexity and risk.
>>
>
> I can't speak for Mr Romero, but I imagine what he's after is plausible
> deniability.  The GELI metadata on a volume unambiguously declares it to be
> encrypted data.
>
> Properly implemented, I think this could be a worthwhile enhancement for
> certain applications or circumstances where one may not wish to invite
> further scrutiny.
>
> --
> Greg Rivers
>
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