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Date:      Sun, 18 Apr 2021 03:24:44 +0000
From:      bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org
To:        x11@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   [Bug 255040] Xorg sever terminates with error on 13.0-RELEASE
Message-ID:  <bug-255040-7141-AJ0COVMPfD@https.bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/>
In-Reply-To: <bug-255040-7141@https.bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #7 from jdrch <judahrichardson@gmail.com> ---
> ranting about it to the volunteers trying to help you accomplishes nothin=
g.

The fact that 13.0 was marked RELEASE without stuff like this being checked
for, or that the FreeBSD project thinks routinely building drivers from sou=
rce
is something 2021 users have any interest in (this isn't Berkeley in 1987)
tells me even attempting to contribute wouldn't make a difference. Poor DE
functionality is literally part of FreeBSD's culture at this point.

Nearly half the respondents to a poll on the FreeBSD forums showed the
community has no interest in proper DE support:
https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/freebsd-kommunity-edition.78594/

I've seen project after project that tried to solve this issue fail due to
upstream stonewalling within the FreeBSD project itself: PC-BSD, TrueOS,
Project Trident, FuryBSD, the list goes on and on.

Ergo, the notion that "if you contributed you could make a difference" is
simply misleading. Many have tried and failed. Unless FreeBSD's core develo=
pers
take the workstation use case seriously and treat it as a 1st class citizen=
 on
par with what (e.g.) Debian does, this problem will always repeat itself no
matter what I do.

> What is in your dmesg when you boot?

Could you kindly remind me how to retrieve this? I haven't had to do it in a
while.

> You need to update the GPU driver for FreeBSD 13 before you can get any g=
raphical environment going.

The error I posted originally is the result of me downloading the latest
non-DRM driver (the DRM driver does not support my Core 2nd Gen iGPU.)

> Have you updated your packages/ports before after updating to FreeBSD 13.=
0-RELEASE?

Yes, I did.

> There has been a lot of changes in the drm driver between FreeBSD 12 and =
13, we are jumping from 4.16 to 5.4.

I imagine so, but I'm using the non-DRM driver.

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