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Date:      Sun, 13 May 2001 14:58:01 +0200
From:      Erik Trulsson <ertr1013@student.uu.se>
To:        Hugh Blandford <hugh@island.net.au>
Cc:        stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Running Stable on remote production server
Message-ID:  <20010513145801.A15090@student.uu.se>
In-Reply-To: <006c01c0dba7$f21a38c0$0bdea8c0@island.net.au>; from hugh@island.net.au on Sun, May 13, 2001 at 10:26:32PM %2B1000
References:  <006c01c0dba7$f21a38c0$0bdea8c0@island.net.au>

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On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 10:26:32PM +1000, Hugh Blandford wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I have been reading the instructions for tracking stable and what is
> recommended in the way of procedures.  It seems from this that it would be
> extremely hard to follow these recommendations for a remote POP.  IE moving
> to single user mode and on the whole messing with the machine for several
> hours at a time.

Several hours is a bit overstated. Maybe one hour at most. The part that
takes most time is buildworld/buildkernel. That can be done in the
background in normal, multi-user mode. The only parts that need to be
done in single-user mode is the actual installworld/installkernel and
running mergemaster. That should not take more than one hour, probably
much less on a modern machine.

I would recommend trying the whole procedure first on a machine that you
have physical access to and which is not doing anything important, just
to make sure that you understand the whole procedure. Oh, and remember to
make backups beforehand.

> 
> I would be very interested in hearing from anyone who is running a 24x7
> server who is tracking stable and how they cope.  In my case I haven't seen
> one of my servers for over a year.  It is in a phone exchange and costs a
> fortune to 'visit'.
> 

In general I believe people who run 24x7 servers don't upgrade their
machines unless there is some specific reason for doing so. ("If it ain't
broke, don't fix it.")

In the case of security holes that need to be fixed it is often possible
to do so without doing the whole mke world thing. Instructions for doing
so is often included in the Security Alerts.


-- 
<Insert your favourite quote here.>
Erik Trulsson
ertr1013@student.uu.se


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