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Date:      Mon, 08 Dec 2003 21:27:56 +0000
From:      Andrew Boothman <andrew@cream.org>
To:        Chris Shenton <chris@shenton.org>
Cc:        freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: SUNRays
Message-ID:  <3FD4ECDC.5070807@cream.org>
In-Reply-To: <86fzfvxnaj.fsf@PECTOPAH.shenton.org>
References:  <3FD24741.5000100@crowncollege.edu> <3FD258B5.3030101@cream.org> <86fzfvxnaj.fsf@PECTOPAH.shenton.org>

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[CCed to -sparc: Can SunRay boxes be made to work with FreeBSD?]

Chris Shenton wrote:
> Andrew Boothman <andrew@cream.org> writes:
> 
> 
>>They are *really* thin clients that really only consist of a
>>monitor, mouse and keyboard and rely on their host server for
>>everything else. That's not an architecture that you're going to get
>>FreeBSD to run under I wouldn't think.
>  
> I suspect that if the SunRays do a PXE boot then they can be given
> addresses by DHCP, boot files via TFTP, and filesystems via NFS --
> just like any other diskless client.

There's the thing - I don't think that the Rays are capable of doing 
something like that.

If you look at http://wwws.sun.com/sunray/sunray150/features.html which 
is a list of features for the most 'advanced' SunRay that is available - 
you'll see that, "All computing is performed on the server". In other 
words, there is no local processor - nothing to run a local FreeBSD 
kernel (or anything else) on.

The rays depend entirely on their host server for all computation, I 
don't think they even have any local memory so they are not simply a 
diskless box in the usual sense - as they would normally have local CPU 
and memory.

However, like I said before if they can be made to understand a normal X 
session then perhaps they could just act as X-servers or something 
similar? Do a google for "sunray linux" and see what Linux-type people 
have done, although from 
https://listman.redhat.com/archives/k12osn/2003-April/msg00797.html it 
doesn't look too hopeful that anyone has it working yet...

Andrew



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