Date: 15 Mar 2003 13:16:54 -0500 From: Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com> To: Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net> Cc: DougB@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fail to build XEmacs with GTK Message-ID: <1047752213.81982.10.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> In-Reply-To: <20030315143137.57769881.Alexander@Leidinger.net> References: <OE51K6qSX422M3fJTmh0000e396@hotmail.com> <1047615404.66262.7.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20030314043154.GA94526@rot13.obsecurity.org> <1047616453.66262.10.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20030313230858.H1839@znfgre.tberna.bet> <1047645619.2553.4.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20030314210940.N1839@znfgre.tberna.bet> <1047709502.75367.3.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20030315143137.57769881.Alexander@Leidinger.net>
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On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 08:31, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> On 15 Mar 2003 01:25:02 -0500
> Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com> wrote:
>=20
> > > > (And, for backwards compatibility's sake, WITH_GTK will still be ar=
ound
> > > > for a while).
> > >=20
> > > IMO, it should stay around in perpetuity.
> >=20
> > For the reasons I listed above, I don't think this is a good idea. Why
> > is it such a problem to substitute WITH_GTK with USE_GNOME=3Dgtk12? Af=
ter
> > all, this is documented.
Sorry, I was tired last night. This should have said:
USE_GTK vs. USE_GNOME=3Dgtk12
>=20
> I think Doug is concerned about how this looks to people which aren't
> that familiar with the ports tree.
>=20
> It's ok for port maintainers/committers, but for an 'ordinary' user it
> may sound as it needs/depends on GNOME. And if such an user doesn't want
> GNOME to get installed, he may decide to not install such a port without
> trying if it actually installs GNOME or not.
The port author is still the one in control, and is free to use WITH_GTK
as a knob if they desire. However, they have to translate that in their
port to be USE_GNOME=3Dgtk12 instead of USE_GTK. Therefore, they can
still do something like this:
pre-configure::
@${ECHO_MSG} ""
@${ECHO_MSG} "This sport has the following option(s):"
@${ECHO_MSG} ""
@${ECHO_MSG} "WITH_GTK=3Dyes Enable GTK+-1.2 support"
@${ECHO_MSG} ""
Then they can add something like this:
.if defined(WITH_GTK)
USE_GNOME=3D gtk12
.endif
However, they are free to also use the built-in WANT_GNOME/HAVE_GNOME
method with handles autodetection as well:
WANT_GNOME=3D yes
...
.if ${HAVE_GNOME:Mgtk12}!=3D""
USE_GNOME=3D gtk12
.endif
And even combine them if they like:
WANT_GNOME=3D yes
...
.if ${HAVE_GNOME:Mgtk12}!=3D"" || defined(WITH_GTK)
USE_GNOME=3D gtk12
.endif
All of this can be made transparent to the end user. It's just that in
GNOMENG (soon to be just regular GNOME), the WITH_GTK macro is no longer
magical. It's no longer reserved. The porter is still free to use it,
though. Hope this helps clear things up a bit.
Joe
>=20
> Bye,
> Alexander.
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