Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 14:22:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Wm Brian McCane <root@bmccane.uit.net> To: Luigi Rizzo <luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Cc: "Jamil J. Weatherbee" <jamil@counterintelligence.ml.org>, peter@grendel.IAEhv.nl, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ISDN Modems Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.91.970918141255.26858A-100000@bmccane.uit.net> In-Reply-To: <199709181232.OAA09840@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>
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On Thu, 18 Sep 1997, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > To be honest with you I thought about this for a few months, If you in the > > US the best solution is something like an Ascend Pipeline 50 router (no > > firewall) ($599), with a crossover (included) to an inexpensive NE2000 > > card ($40). This is about twice as expensive as a Motorola Bitsurfer > > I think in europe as well it is way more convenient to have a router > instead of an internal card. Prices are in fact comparable (I would say > even a little bit lower) to those mentioned above, and going through a > messy serial device driver does not help at all. The simplicity in > setting up things pays back much more than the extra cost. > > Now if ISDN cards were sold in volumes and priced reasonably (i.e. > as much as an NE2000, since they are actually simpler!) and accessed > through a dedicated device driver, then things would certainly be > different. > > Cheers > Luigi Thanks for all the advice. I had come to basically the same decision, and had in fact already priced the routers for this method. The box behind the router will be a P166MMX running as a SKIP/swIPe router, with a firewall as a prophylactic ;). Anyway, I guess my next question, is how hard is it to configure the Pipeline 50's to send RFC 1912(?) addresses. That is 192.168.1.*. I was already going to use the P50 as a router for the WAN I am installing and all our internal addresses are like: 192.168.1.* Main office 192.168.2.* Other site . . 192.168.6.* Last Site I will be placing the SKIP routers at the main and last sites. SKIP/swIPe will encapsulate the data and pass it through the internet to the other end. None of the other sites will even have an internet connection. We intend to allow 1 PC at each site to have the ability to get to the internet via `natd' or something similar through the main or last sites. That PC will sit in the middle of the office space in plain view. All other machines will be blocked from accessing the internet via the firewalls. In case you haven't guessed, my customer feels that the internet is a MAJOR waste of time, and actually recently went through personally looking at his employees computers through NetBEUI to make sure none of them had a web browser installed 8). brian BTW> Am I insane or will my WAN work when I am done? \ / O O ^ \___/ +-------------------------------------+----------------------------------------+ He rides a cycle of mighty days, and \ Wm Brian and Lori McCane he represents the last great schizm \ McCane Consulting among the gods. Evil though he obviously \ root@bmccane.uit.net is, he is a mighty figure, this father of \ http://bmccane.uit.net/ my spirit, and I respect him as the sons \ http://bmccane.uit.net/~pictures/ of old did the fathers of their bodies. \ http://bmccane.uit.net/~bmccane/ Roger Zelazny - "Lord of Light" \ http://bmccane.uit.net/~bbs/ +---------------------------------------------+--------------------------------+
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