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Date:      Thu, 26 Jan 2017 16:36:23 +0000
From:      krad <kraduk@gmail.com>
To:        Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, Walter Parker <walterp@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: Building Kernel and World with -j
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I use these options in my src.conf

WITH_FAST_DEPEND=yes
WITH_CCACHE_BUILD=yes

I can often get build times of about 9 min but can got upto about 30 mins
in jenkins  depending on how much has changed. This is on a i5-3570K. It
does have 32GB and ssd l2arc. Those times are for a buildworld, buildkernel
packages for pkgbase. and j is set to 5


On 23 January 2017 at 18:09, Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 6:10 AM, Lowell Gilbert <
> freebsd-stable-local@be-well.ilk.org> wrote:
>
> > Walter Parker <walterp@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > > For decades there has always been a warning not to do parallel builds
> of
> > > the kernel or the world (Linux kernel builds also suggest not to do
> > this).
> > >
> > > Every once in a while, I see people post about 5 minutes. This only
> way I
> > > can see this happening is by doing a parallel build (-j 16 on a Xeon
> > > Monster box).
> > >
> > > Are parallel builds safe? If not, what are actual risk factors and can
> > they
> > > be mitigated?
> >
> > As a general rule, it's safe. But don't report failures from a
> > parallel build.
> >
> > This is not so much an issue of parallel builds being unsupported
> > as of the logs being harder to read.
>
>
> Use of parallel builds of world and kernel are and have been supported
> since at least 10.0. If a parallel build fails, the first step is usually
> to do a single-job build. If it succeeds, there is a bug in the make
> scripts that should be reported. If the single-job build also fails, a bug
> should be reported with any errors included from the non-parallel build as
> the parallel build makes the error context very difficult or even
> impossible to determine from the log.
>
> Generally, I think the number of jobs should be slightly greater than the
> number of available CPU threads. Back in 10.0 days I ran some tests that
> showed the for 4 and 8 thread systems the improvements for large numbers of
> jobs peaked at about CPU thread count + 2 and significantly larger numbers
> of jobs caused a slight deterioration in performance. This was not true on
> early hyper-threaded CPUs which did not effectively optimize
> hyper-threading and things may have changed in the 6 or 7 years since I
> tested and may be very different for systems with large numbers of threads
> seen in servers today.
> --
> Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer
> E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com
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