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Date:      Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:29:54 -0600
From:      "Ronald G. Minnich" <rminnich@lanl.gov>
To:        Chuck Youse <cyouse@paradox.nexuslabs.com>
Cc:        Ilia Chipitsine <ilia@cgilh.chel.su>, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: why FFS is THAT slower than EXT2 ?
Message-ID:  <Pine.SGI.4.10.9910271026500.671784-100000@acl.lanl.gov>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9910271158590.1849-100000@paradox.nexuslabs.com>

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On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Chuck Youse wrote:

> One of the biggest reasons for the difference:  FreeBSD, by default,
> performs _synchronous_ metadata updates, and Linux performs asynchronous
> metadata updates.  
> 
> It's definitely a bit slower, but the payoff is in reliability.  I have
> seen more than one [production!] Linux machine completely trash its
> filesystems because the implementors decided that their "NT-killer" must
> have good performance at the expense of serious, production-quality
> reliability.


To put it slightly more strongly: as far as I'm concerned ext2 is not a
serious fs if you really care about handling power failures and other such
fun things. In clusters as small as 64 machines I've measured a 5%
probability that after a power failure one of the 64 ext2 file systems
will have a trashed root file system. With freebsd, over a four-year span,
running through lots of power outages, I didn't lose an FFS file system
even *once* (except for the disk that burned up, but not even FFS can fix
that one). 

ext2 needs a lot of help. Evidently it will be getting it soon, though. 

ron



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