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Date:      Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:54:16 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Jason Halbert <res02jw5@gte.net>
Cc:        Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>, Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.ORG>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: VCD (was Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/ata atapi-cd.c)
Message-ID:  <20010122115416.G3066@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <KAECKEJJOLGHAFGGNIKMKEMICAAA.res02jw5@gte.net>; from res02jw5@gte.net on Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 12:58:54AM -0000
References:  <20010122104232.M93049@wantadilla.lemis.com> <KAECKEJJOLGHAFGGNIKMKEMICAAA.res02jw5@gte.net>

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On Monday, 22 January 2001 at  0:58:54 -0000, Jason Halbert wrote:
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> On Monday, January 22, 2001 00:13, Greg Lehey wrote:
>> On Monday, 22 January 2001 at  1:03:12 +0100, Brad Knowles wrote:
>>> At 3:55 PM -0800 2001/1/21, Kris Kennaway wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's a multi-system TV which does NTSC and PAL natively. No
>>>> conversion is involved (unless I tell my VCR to convert from NTSC
>>>> to PAL, in which case there IS degradation)
>>>
>>> 	I've got a multi-system TV, too.  Trust me, there's always a
>>> "native" format, and a converted format.  Since most multi-system
>>> video devices seem to come from Europe, they would naturally be
>>> "native" PAL or SECAM format, and NTSC would be the converted
>>> format.
>>
>> Look at the circuitry of a TV.  You have one or more decoders which
>> convert the incoming composite stream into RGB and sync pulses.
>> Beyond that point they're as system-dependent as the monitor in front
>> of you.  The decoders themselves are so cheap that you'd think it
>> would be easier to build multisystem VCRs.
>>
>>> 	I'm quite certain that if I hooked up a splitter from the VCR
>>> or the DVD player and put the same video signal on both TVs, it
>>> would look better on the true native NTSC format television than
>>> they would on the one that has its own built-in NTSC/PAL converter.
>>
>> Well, you could try, but even then it would be a comparison between
>> individual devices.
>
> Hmm... I'm thinking cheap is the reason I don't see a difference.  I
> don't have any cheap equipment at my house or the station I work for.
> All my monitors are broadcast standard quality which is several cuts
> above consumer.  I use a broadband demodulator thats used in
> broadcast.
>
> Maybe that's why I don't notice.

This is the second reply I have had from you (the first was a private
reply) where I don't know what you're referring to.  Can't you
interleave your reply with the text you're referring to (and remove
the rest)?

Greg
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