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Date:      Thu, 03 Jun 1999 13:12:53 -0700
From:      "Richard Childers" <rchilders@hamquist.com>
To:        "Timothy R. Platt" <timothy@hamptons.com>
Cc:        <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Shell Account system
Message-ID:  <3756E1C5.8C9A78CD@hamquist.com>
References:  <Pine.OSF.4.10.9906011139450.4443-100000@bragg> <v04003a00b379024eb476@[204.141.112.245]>

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"Timothy R. Platt" wrote:

	"Better install a traffic logger, or better yet ipfw."

Could someone knowledgeable comment on the differences between ipfw and
SANS' SHADOW package (primarily developed on a FreeBSd platform) ?


-- richard



"Timothy R. Platt" wrote:
> 
> Install tripwire, it's in the ports.
> 
> Better install a traffic logger, or better yet ipfw.  You'll need them to
> log and report all the smurfs, fraggles, and synks you're going to get.
> 
> Tim
> 
> >Yeah, thanks, but the system is for anyone able to pay, so, you can say
> >i trust nobody.
> >
> >Kris Kennaway wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 31 May 1999, Joe Gleason wrote:
> >>
> >> [Snip]
> >>
> >> Good advice, but running a shell account for people who you don't really
> >>trust
> >> is still not a wise move for the inexperienced, and not something you can
> >> easily document in a webpage. UNIX security is a way of life - there are any
> >> number of things which the unwary can trip over which could potentially
> >> compromise your machine.
> >>
> >> If it's for a small group of users who you trust fairly well, you
> >> probably should be okay, though.
> >
> >
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