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Date:      Tue, 21 Aug 2001 23:54:37 -0700
From:      "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>
Cc:        cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern kern_condvar.c kern_synch.c src/sys/sys proc.h
Message-ID:  <20010821235437.A64706@dragon.nuxi.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010821170420.L81307@elvis.mu.org>; from bright@mu.org on Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 05:04:21PM -0500
References:  <200108211842.f7LIgkp03186@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010821134601.J81307@elvis.mu.org> <20010821124428.B17739@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010821164833.D58026@leviathan.inethouston.net> <20010821170420.L81307@elvis.mu.org>

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On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 05:04:21PM -0500, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> This is a pretty useless bug report.
> 
> Please read the section in the handbook about kernel debugging
> and get us a useful traceback/crashdump as well as systat type
> info.

OK Albert,

I am one of these people.  How the hell do you expect me to get
crashdumps when my entire disk subsystem is what is freezing and going
out to lunch???  I get to ddb and type `panic'.  All I get is the first
part of the message of writing to disk.  But guess what!?!  Nothing
happens because guess what!?!  I no longer have a disk subsystem to save
the crashdump to.  `ps' will totally wedge the machine when it is in this
state also.

Now would *YOU* like to offer something other than "pretty useless"
debugging advice.
 
-- 
-- David  (obrien@FreeBSD.org)

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