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Date:      Sat, 27 Jan 2007 09:32:54 -0500
From:      Jim Pingle <lists@pingle.org>
To:        JoaoBR <joao@matik.com.br>,  freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, rsmith@xs4all.nl
Subject:   Re: Loosing spam fight
Message-ID:  <45BB6296.1080106@pingle.org>
In-Reply-To: <20070127141052.GA96039@slackbox.xs4all.nl>
References:  <8a20e5000701240903q35b89e14k1ab977df62411784@mail.gmail.com>	<200701260924.59674.joao@matik.com.br>	<20070127041608.GG927@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org>	<200701271058.47517.joao@matik.com.br> <20070127141052.GA96039@slackbox.xs4all.nl>

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Roland Smith wrote:
> Most spammers do not bother to return if they get a resend request.
> That's the whole point of doing this. So practically it doesn't increase
> bandwidth consumption.

This conversation is getting rather OT for -stable, but I felt the need to
ask a question:

To defeat this, wouldn't a spammer just have to send out the same spam twice
in a row from the same machines, spaced apart by a little time?

Bonus for the spammer: accounts on servers without greylisting would get two
copies of the spam.

Greylisting is a decent idea, but it seems to me that it's just another tool
in the ongoing arms race against spammers. It may work for a while, but
eventually they'll catch on and it will only cause unnecessary delays for
legitimate mail.

Jim



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