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Date:      Sat, 7 Sep 1996 03:04:08 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Russ Panula <zeeb@digitaladvantage.net>
To:        dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu
Cc:        Kurt Schafer <kurt@cyberbeach.net>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Another approach to sendmail
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.91.960907023741.13683A-100000@phil.digitaladvantage.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSI.3.94.960906201921.302A-100000@gdi.uoregon.edu>

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On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, Doug White wrote:

> On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, Kurt Schafer wrote:
> 
> > In conclusion, can anybody run off any kind of list that could cause
> > sendmail to time out all the time ? Even transfers to ISP's in the same
> > city die all the time.
> 
> Sounds more like either bad cabling or bad outbound routing.  It works one
> way and not the other.
> 
That's what bing is saying too:

% bing phil.digitaladvantage.net wave.cyberbeach.net
BING    phil.digitaladvantage.net (207.40.157.13) and wave.cyberbeach.net 
(205.150.79.11)
        44 and 108 data bytes
bing: packet (56 bytes) from unexpected host 192.197.158.242
bing: packet (56 bytes) from unexpected host 192.197.158.242
bing: packet (56 bytes) from unexpected host 192.197.158.242
bing: packet (56 bytes) from unexpected host 192.197.158.242
bing: packet (56 bytes) from unexpected host 192.197.158.242
bing: packet (56 bytes) from unexpected host 192.197.158.242
bing: packet (56 bytes) from unexpected host 192.197.158.242
bing: packet (56 bytes) from unexpected host 192.197.158.242
^C
--- phil.digitaladvantage.net statistics ---
bytes   out    in   dup  loss   rtt (ms): min       avg       max
   44     4     4          0%           0.161     0.191     0.244
  108     4     4          0%           0.153     0.154     0.158
 
--- wave.cyberbeach.net statistics ---
bytes   out    in   dup  loss   rtt (ms): min       avg       max
   44     4     0        100%
  108     4     0        100%
 
not enough received packets to estimate link characteristics.
%

Looks like packets being sent to wave.cyberbeach.net are coming back 
disguised as packets from 192.197.158.242.  Interesting.. :)

And if that isn't strange enough, how about a bing to 192.197.158.242:

% bing phil.digitaladvantage.net 192.197.158.242
BING    phil.digitaladvantage.net (207.40.157.13) and 192.197.158.242 
(192.197.158.242)
        44 and 108 data bytes
bing: unexpected packet size (56 bytes) from 192.197.158.242
bing: unexpected packet size (56 bytes) from 192.197.158.242
bing: unexpected packet size (56 bytes) from 192.197.158.242
bing: unexpected packet size (56 bytes) from 192.197.158.242
^C
--- phil.digitaladvantage.net statistics ---
bytes   out    in   dup  loss   rtt (ms): min       avg       max
   44     2     2          0%           0.166     0.208     0.251
  108     2     2          0%           0.155     0.160     0.164
 
--- 192.197.158.242 statistics ---
bytes   out    in   dup  loss   rtt (ms): min       avg       max
   44     2     0        100%
  108     2     0        100%
 
not enough received packets to estimate link characteristics.
%

And the error message gets even more interesting.. "unexpected packet 
size"

Since 192.197.158.242 is most likely a router port this problem can 
probably be localized to the router.  (It's a good guess at least)

Check router configs, and test the router hardware as well as the 
wiring.

Russ

(sorry for the long bing outputs and ugly pine formatting.. it's late)




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