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Date:      Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:27:58 -0700
From:      Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
Cc:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, Dom.Mitchell@palmerharvey.co.uk, desar@club-internet.fr, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: UNIX license issues (was: Searching an "old" BSD stdio)
Message-ID:  <36CF995E.C1ED0E8E@softweyr.com>
References:  <199902210032.RAA22703@usr08.primenet.com>

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Terry Lambert wrote:
> Greg Lehey wrote:
> > Terry Lambert wrote:
> >
> > > If he sells others, it's only with proof of a Western Electric or
> > > later UNIX source license, to keep himself out of hot water.
> >
> > Correct, you need a source license.  The easiest way is to get the SCO
> > license, which will cost you $100.  See
> > http://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/PUPS/getlicense.html for further details.
> 
> I already have two transferable SVR3 source licenses: one for my Amiga,
> and one for a Televideo terminal I bought from the local (at the time)
> University.  The equipment serial numbers are on the source licensed
> machine manifest for the college, and the terminal is a "class B
> computing device".  Actually, there are a heck of a lot of people from
> that era who also have source licenses for their own stuff, if they
> got a correct transfer document at sale time.  I know of at least two
> other people.  Wes may or may not have been there for "serial number
> day", when we wnt through all the equipment looking for class A or
> class B FCC certs and serial numbers all over campus to bloat the
> number of licenses.  Unfortunately, I didn't get an SVR4 license; they
> changed the way they licensed to "by site" instead of "by machine".

I think Johnnie got my TeleWidget 915 on that list, since it did 
actually come from WSU.  If not, his 925 was certainly on the list, 
and I've probably got it around here somewhere.  He left it with me 
when he moved to Germany.  Come to think of it, his Everex Step system 
was probably on the list, too, and I've got that laying in pieces in 
the basement, along with the Sperry PC/IT that was the original Obie.

> Also unfortunately, I don't have media, and I think media costs on
> SVR3 still exceed $100.  8-(.

I've probably still got Johnnie's set in a box downstairs.  It took 
a LOT of 1.2MB 5.25" floppies to store the entire SVR3 source code,
you know?


> Does the republished Lyons V7 book count?  That could be a cheaper
> alternative... plus you'd get a book.  ;-).

I've got a 5th or 6th generation photocopy of the original down there
somewhere, along with the Delft SVR4 internals training manuals,
and a working port of cfront 1.2 to ISC SVR3/386.  Ah, those were 
the days...


Now VAX/VMS source was really hard to get your hands on, but we had
that, too.  Or, you could just get it the way Kevin Mitnick did - 
steal it from Rob Clyde.  ;^)

-- 
       "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

Wes Peters                                                 Softweyr LLC
http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr                      wes@softweyr.com


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