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Date:      Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:18:16 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@Glue.umd.edu>
To:        Gary Chrysler <tcg@ime.net>
Cc:        Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>, Martin Loeffler <martin.loeffler@utoronto.ca>, questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: forcing a modem to hangup
Message-ID:  <Pine.OSF.3.91.960712001144.20731B-100000@channel.eng.umd.edu>
In-Reply-To: <31E5CF38.14BD@ime.net>

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On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote:

> > Gary, those of us that know how to use breakout boxes, and have dealt
> > with serial commercially, usually react violently against internal
> > modems, just because they eliminate two of the most commonly used
> > troubleshooting tools (front panel lights and breakout boxes).  If you
> > don't know how to use them, or aren't used to these tools, I guess you
> > might be less than understanding about the attitude, but there's a good
> > reason behind it.  I don't think I've ever heard of anyone with technical
> > experience in maintaining comm lines that would disagree.
> >
> 
> Interesting, "Those of us" Implies my exclusion.
> 
> You sure seem to know an awefull lot about something you know
> nothing about!

I don't understand why you are getting impolite about it.  I didn't exclude 
you, nor insult you.  I've worked in communications, either voice or 
data, for years, so I think I probably know _something_ about it.

> > There's a difference between trusting troubleshooting software, and
> > seeing results with your eyes.
> 
> Neither one is any good if you don't know how to use them.

Well, I sure can't disagree with that.  I was explaining why many folks 
have a severe allergy towards internal modems.  Do you disagree with that?

I guess I was suggesting that if you did know how to use the tools, then 
using internal modems denied them to you.

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