Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:07:30 -0800 From: "Majid Almassari" <majid@ibroadcast.net> To: "Danny" <dannyh@idx.com.au>, "W Gerald Hicks" <jhix@mindspring.com> Cc: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: FreeBSD certification Message-ID: <00b301bf67cc$0e999a00$1791ddd1@balfourplace.com> References: <200001260233.SAA13779@mindspring.com>
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Majid Almassari, MSEE, MCP. System Administrator. iBroadcast, Inc. (206) 223-5540 http://www.ibroadcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: W Gerald Hicks <jhix@mindspring.com> To: Danny <dannyh@idx.com.au> Cc: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 6:33 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD certification > > > Linux / Solaris and FreeBSD training courses doesn't have the > > GoodWill like other training courses like MCSE, CNE, Cisco. > > > > > > > > > > Is there anyone offering a certification exam in FreeBSD knowledge, > > > > like what > > > > RedHat does with Linux, or SCO or Solaris do? > > > > > > I wouldn't say that MCSE, CNE or Cisco certifications really have > that much "GoodWill" associated with them. Rather, they have some > public recognition as a result of enormous amounts of money being > poured into marketing them. A lot of money it is not even funny ;) > I know quite a few rather clueless people holding multiple > certifications; they aren't necessarily any assurance that > someone knows what they are doing. True, but on the other side of the house you got a number of seasoned what so called Network Engineers with xx years of experience lack that solid analytical systematic approach of problem solving as soon something deviates from the standard routine come and see their clueless faces! you will see lack of systematic approach of problem solving thereof. Analytical approach to Problem solving comes from both education and experience, not from one or the other only. In the contrary you got paper certificate people who can create more harm then good after graduating from what is called Boot Camp Certification they think they know it all! Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that every Boot Camp Graduate is a paper certified this technique is useful for the. experienced, but not otherwise in my opinion. So Certification is a double edged knife depending how you use it but usually beneficial if combined with experience. > If anything, I view these certs as an doomed attempt to create > a commodity market in technical talent. Not Really doomed, a Cisco CCIE go through a rigorous hands on lab exams of configuring the nastiest network you can ever encounter. You can't pass such an exam in a boot camp because if you have not worked extensively with Cisco Routers you will not pass the exam.period. Besides there are only about 5000 Cisco Certified in the whole entire world, so the market is in real need of Certified technical staff. Red Hat RACE is one booming certificate that is not that bad in my opinion because you still have to pass a lab and a troubleshooting test. M$ needs to implement a Lab exam for it to be of any value? FreeBSD Certification I hope I can see one in the future may be one of these days it would be nice to have one solid hands on Lab exam or something similar to the Red Had One. It is also a way of promoting and helping the cause of the Awesome FreeBSD OS. It is not a money rip off, no body slapped any one in the hands saying that you got to be certified. If employers require it, then they are the one to blame and should pay for it. Sorry for the long reply I just had to put my $1 share :-) > Cheers, > > Jerry Hicks > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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