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Date:      Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:09:48 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Phillip Salzman <psalzman@gamefish.pcola.gulf.net>
To:        Bill Paul <wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Grrr... calcru: negative time blah blah blah
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.9811052108060.24174-100000@gamefish.pcola.gulf.net>
In-Reply-To: <199811060024.TAA14156@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu>

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	I get those same calcu errors.  Except, I get them when I
attempt to ``make buildworld'' or compile a lot of stuff that raises
my load.  This stops me, obviously.

	I am told they are a problem with APM, but took it all out of
my kernel - still no luck.

--
PhillipSalzman  

On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Bill Paul wrote:

> Recently, the EE department got a bunch of new Dell machines with
> 450Mhz PII CPUs. This one particular system is an SMP box with 512MB
> of RAM and a 3D Labs Fire GL 100 <mumble> adapter. Somebody installed
> FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE on this system (my brainwashing scheme is working!
> Soon I will rule the wor--! Uh, wait. You didn't hear that.) and
> discovered that this display adapter isn't supported by XFree86 (yet)
> so they downloaded the XFCom_3DLabs server from somewhere.
> 
> The system seems to run fin until they start this X server. The
> server loads, but it does something unfriendly to the system that
> produces the following errors:
> 
> calcru: negative time of -36857 usec for pid 4036 (csh)
> calcru: negative time of -51744 usec for pid 4043 (w)
> calcru: negative time of -26704 usec for pid 4044 (ps)
> calcru: negative time of -47557 usec for pid 4046 (reboot)
> calcru: negative time of -46489 usec for pid 304 (hostname)
> calcru: negative time of -24935 usec for pid 310 (ps)
> 
> Also, the system becomes really slow at this point: keystrokes
> are echoed on the console very slowly. Naturally, there's no source
> for the XFCom_3DLabs X server.
> 
> I built a kernel from the 3.0-19981103-SNAP distribution: this
> changes the behavior slightly in that the calcru messages no longer
> appear, however the X server crashes shortly after startup:
> 
> pid 254 (XFCom_3DLabs), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped)
> 
> And the system once again feels very slow and sluggish. This slowness
> doesn't go away until the system is rebooted.
> 
> I know this has been talked about before. This problem is 100%
> reproducible with this X server. It happens with both an SMP kernel
> and a UP kernel on the same hardware. Anybody have any clues how
> to go about tracking this down?
> 
> As an aside, I've only seen these messages once before on the Dell
> PowerEdge 2300/400 machine that I've been using for driver development.
> With the tulip clone chips, I managed to generate an interrupt storm
> on several occasions which would foul up the machine pretty good.
> Basically, the driver code would trigger an error interrupt of sorts
> and the code that was meant to handle the interrupt would inadvertently
> trigger the same interrupt over again, resulting in an infinite loop
> condition. Once or twice I've done this late at night while sitting
> at my terminal at home trying to remote test a driver on the machine
> in the lab; since the machine is stuck and I can't reboot it from home,
> I have to wait until I come to work the next morning to clobber it.
> At times, when I come in, I see these same messages on the console.
> I took this to mean that the interrupt storm was interfering with
> the processing of clock ticks which botched the CPU accounting for
> some of the daemon processes that were running when I triggered the
> problem.
> 
> Anyway. If anyone has any clues as to how to deal with this problem,
> I'd love to hear of it. We may be stuck with these cards, and the
> Powers That Be (tm) want to use FreeBSD on these systems for a course;
> I'd hate to have to tell them that they'll have to make due with console
> only mode.
> 
> -Bill
> 
> -- 
> =============================================================================
> -Bill Paul            (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu
> Work:         wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research
> Home:  wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City
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