Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:07:31 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt <deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org> To: Ben Goren <ben@trumpetpower.com> Cc: Doug Richardson <doug_richardson@adaptec.com> Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support Message-ID: <200503200307.j2K37Vvs005282@cvs.openbsd.org> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:04:16 MST." <c6c02002c381725ed3338a58112d12d4@trumpetpower.com>
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Well spoken, Ben. Very well spoken. > On 2005 Mar 19, at 1:21 PM, Scott Long wrote: > > > The hardware is tricky > > to get right and there are bugs in different cards and different > > firmware versions that often need to be worked around. It's all > > documented in my driver, and I'm happy to share my knowledge. > > I used to think good things of Adaptec hardware, and always figured > they'd be at the top of any list I ever put together should I need to > buy RAID hardware. > > This one paragraph has all but convinced me that I'd be nuts to do so. > > First, we have an ex-employee stating that the stuff is ``tricky'' and > full of bugs. Not something I want to trust critical data to. > > Next, that different cards and different firmware versions have bugs > that ``often need to be worked around'' also does not inspire > confidence. If Adaptec *knows* about these bugs, why is it left to the > driver to fix? Why hasn't it been fixed *IN*THE*FIRMWARE*? > > Finally, we learn that these bugs are semi-public knowledge...but that > Adaptec is *STILL* refusing to provide the information necessary to > work around them. Instead, you have to hope that their ex-employees > follow through with offers to share their knowledge. > > Those are three serious strikes. Any one of them would be a probable > deal-breaker for me. > > While I'm sure nobody's perfect...surely there are other vendors who > produce products which aren't so buggy in the first place, who fix > their bugs once they find them, and warn people what to look out for? > > Frankly, if Mr. Long is providing an accurate description of the > quality of Adaptec products--and, after all, he used to work there, so > he should know--then I'd say that Theo would be nuts *not* to pull > support from them. After all, why should OpenBSD get blamed for > Adaptec's crap? > > Cheers, > > b& > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of PGP.sig] >
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