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Date:      Mon, 24 May 2010 20:40:16 -0700
From:      Greg Lewis <glewis@eyesbeyond.com>
To:        Bruce Evans <brde@optusnet.com.au>
Cc:        svn-src-head@freebsd.org, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r208332 - in head/sys: amd64/include i386/include
Message-ID:  <20100525034016.GA75384@misty.eyesbeyond.com>
In-Reply-To: <20100523230410.K17698@delplex.bde.org>
References:  <11069.1274618175@critter.freebsd.dk> <20100523230410.K17698@delplex.bde.org>

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On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 11:15:09PM +1000, Bruce Evans wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2010, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> > In message <20100523183502.C13588@delplex.bde.org>, Bruce Evans writes:
> >> On Thu, 20 May 2010, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> >
> >> <machine/atomic.h> should be kernel-only.
> >
> > No, it absolutely should not, if anything, it should be pushed as
> > international standards (with <sys/endian.h>, and <sys/queue.h>).
> >
> > Atomic operations and write barriers are necessary when multiple
> > threads or processes cooperate using shared memory. and if anything
> > the bug is that POSIX has not updated pthreads to have these and
> > other necessary primitives.  (pthread_mutex_assert_held() for instance).
> 
> Pehraps, but <machine/atomic.h> was only designed, implemented and
> documented for use in the kernel.  And of course any standardized version
> won't look like the FreeBSD kernel one.  The kernel one is too bloated
> for me, but a general-purpose one should be even more bloated so as
> to support all types and more than atomic ops.

The FreeBSD port of the "Zero" Java VM uses <machine/atomic.h>.  Well,
except on sparc64 where <machine/atomic.h> pulls in too much namespace
pollution and it instead includes chunks of the header verbatim instead :(.

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