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Date:      Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:44:55 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Sean Eric Fagan <sef@kithrup.com>
To:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Intel Merced FreeBSD??? Intel? - NOT
Message-ID:  <199908271844.LAA29944@kithrup.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.990827103350.1456C-100000.kithrup.freebsd.hackers@mission.mvnc.edu>
References:  <Pine.LNX.4.04.9908271556350.9830-100000@linux.intranet.netvisor.hu>

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In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.990827103350.1456C-100000.kithrup.freebsd.hackers@mission.mvnc.edu> you write:
>Actually, I was reading in a newsgroup, the VMS newsgroup I think it was,
>that the PA-RISC chip is on the Merced chip.  Basically, Intel will sell
>Merced's with the chip disabled (kind of like the math co-processor on the
>486 SX's) and HP will sell it with the PA-RISC chip enabled so it can run
>HP-UX. 

*sigh*

Look, people, the Merced WILL NOT excuse PA-RISC code directly.  It will be
done via emulation/translation, and only a certain particular OS will be
supported (HP-UX 11, I believe they stated -- since HP-UX 11 runs almost all
HP-UX 10.* applications with no problem, I am _guessing_ that this means they
will continue to work).

I really don't know how people get started with this.  HP has _never_ stated
that the chip will handle it; all they have stated is that HPUX applications
will continue to be supported.

I suggest you people go read comp.arch for a while; there's a fair bit of
information cropping up there.  For example, there's a wonderful thread going
on about HP's previous experience with architecture emulation, including some
interesting comments by people at HP.



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