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Date:      Sun, 23 Mar 2008 21:53:34 +1100 (EST)
From:      Bruce Evans <brde@optusnet.com.au>
To:        Andy Christianson <achristianson@orases.com>
Cc:        freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: random st_birthtime
Message-ID:  <20080323215108.F66259@delplex.bde.org>
In-Reply-To: <776B93361B7BEE4FAD9E720FFBC746B6BDDB68@34093-EVS4C2.exchange.rackspace.com>
References:  <776B93361B7BEE4FAD9E720FFBC746B6BDDB63@34093-EVS4C2.exchange.rackspace.com> <20080321130531.R58941@delplex.bde.org> <776B93361B7BEE4FAD9E720FFBC746B6BDDB68@34093-EVS4C2.exchange.rackspace.com>

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On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, Andy Christianson wrote:

>> Yes, these are 2 of many which weren't updated when birthtime was
>> added.
>
> Thank you for the info. Now I understand why it is happening.
> Would this cause any issues other than the minor security
> issue of exposing random pieces of memory?

Just nothing being able to trust st_birthtime.  Applications would
have to do something like statfs() to see if the file system is one
of the ones that supports st_birthtime (blacklist the others), but
since no one seemed to notice this bug before I doubt that any
applications know to do this.

Bruce



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