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Date:      Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:04:01 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Eric Ogren <eogren@earthlink.net>, Allen Cleveland <allenc@mindsieve.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: [MAILER-DAEMON@earthlink.net: Returned mail: Service unavailable]
Message-ID:  <20000412160401.M35391@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <20000411151353.F304@earthlink.net>
References:  <20000411151353.F304@earthlink.net> <3.0.5.32.20000411174343.007be350@mindsieve.com> <20000411151353.F304@earthlink.net>

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On Tuesday, 11 April 2000 at 15:13:53 -0400, Eric Ogren wrote:
> <sigh>
> Didn't want to bounce this to -questions, but looks like I have no
> choice...
>
> Eric
>

>
> The original message was received at Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:57:00 -0700 (PDT)
> from ip48.cambridge1.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.32.111.48]
>
>    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> <grog@lemis.com>
>
>    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> ... while talking to freebie.lemis.com.:
>>>> MAIL From:<eogren@rod.darktech.org>
> <<< 550 Mail rejected.  See http://www.lemis.com/dontspam.html
> 554 <grog@lemis.com>... Service unavailable

On Tuesday, 11 April 2000 at 17:43:43 -0400, Allen Cleveland wrote:
> At 03:13 PM 4/11/00 -0400, Eric Ogren wrote:
>> <sigh>
>> Didn't want to bounce this to -questions, but looks like I have no
>> choice...
>
> This is because you used a dialup account to send the email directly to
> lemis.com instead of sending the email to your ISP's mail server.
>
>> Received: from rod.darktech.org (ip48.cambridge1.ma.pub-ip.psi.net
> [38.32.111.48])
>
> Had you sent the email to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, the same thing
> would have happened.

Well, no, that's not the case this time round.  Read the message:

>>>> MAIL From:<eogren@rod.darktech.org>
> <<< 550 Mail rejected.  See http://www.lemis.com/dontspam.html
> 554 <grog@lemis.com>... Service unavailable

This is rejected by the spam filter, as the URL suggests.  I've just
explained this to Eric on -doc: Earthlink is an obnoxious spammer.
This doesn't mean that Eric is, but people are known by the company
they keep.

Greg
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