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Date:      Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:55:52 -0500
From:      robgar <robgar@mindspring.net>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 4.0 code freeze scheduled for Jan 15th
Message-ID:  <20000106135552.A36638@zot.ems.mindspring.net>
In-Reply-To: <1375.947183061@zippy.cdrom.com>; from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com on Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 10:24:21AM -0800
References:  <20000106121409.A36123@zot.ems.mindspring.net> <1375.947183061@zippy.cdrom.com>

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On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 10:24:21AM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> > There are many people who use freebsd in the real world that have been counti
> ng
> > on 4.0 including support for ipsec and ipv6, ipsec more importantly. We would
> > be willing to wait an additional couple of months for this functionality, ple
> 
> Sadly, you've picked a particular bit of technology that we've been
> waiting more than a year for.  If I had any assurance that a couple of
> months would make a difference for KAME, I might even contemplate that
> as a strong option, but they don't work to those kinds of schedules.
> Based on past experience, it could easily be another year before the
> KAME group is ready with everything you're asking for.  Should we wait
> a year?  Clearly not, and we have to make our schedules independently
> of the long-term project groups or we'll never release anything.
> 
> - Jordan

That is true, and has always been true. Things get done when people are ready to
get them done and not before.

Rob


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