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Date:      Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:05:17 -0800
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>
To:        Yuri <yuri@rawbw.com>, Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com>
Cc:        =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bernhard_Fr=F6hlich?= <decke@bluelife.at>, Big Lebowski <spankthespam@gmail.com>, ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?
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On 1/25/14 3:41 PM, Yuri wrote:
> On 01/25/2014 14:44, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
>> The key seems to be that no one has time to do the stuff they really 
>> want
>> to do (get new ports into the system)... to that end automating 
>> everything
>> that can be automated is sure help free up comitter time so they can 
>> look
>> at what is interesting
>
> Yes. I just can't imagine any generic port tests that can't be 
> automated and coded into the script once and for good.
> Ideal system should be like github with the added automated testing 
> between pull request submission and merge. It should either fail and 
> notify the submitter, or succeed and notify the committers.
>
> Today all committers do for ports is running some generic tests by 
> hand, like 'lint' with various flags. Install/uninstall/etc. No wonder 
> this isn't very a rewarding activity, and committers probably perceive 
> it as a necessary evil. The way how it is, it causes a waste of their 
> time.
>
100% agree.

-Alfred




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