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Date:      Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:36:56 +0200
From:      Ivan Voras <ivoras@freebsd.org>
To:        Ken Smith <kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu>
Cc:        stable@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-stable@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Gavin Atkinson <gavin@freebsd.org>, svn-src-stable-8@freebsd.org, Ken Smith <kensmith@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r197065 - in stable/8: etc/defaults lib/libc/stdlib sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/ia64/conf sys/pc98/conf sys/powerpc/conf sys/sparc64/conf
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2009/9/10 Ken Smith <kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu>:
> On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 15:29 +0100, Gavin Atkinson wrote:

>> This seems like a step backwards to me: crash dumps have been left
>> enabled in 7.x and have proved very useful from the point of view of
>> improved quality of received PRs. =C2=A0I'm not aware of any problems
>> relating to leaving them enabled.
>>
>> I'd appreciate it if this decision was reconsidered.
>>
>
> Unfortunately as I said before there is no "Right answer" for this one.

No, but there is an "80% right" one, based on the question: did the
change in 7 cause known problems for any significant number of users
(or one of two big users - that should be enough).

After all, if users were fine with crashdumps & symbols being enabled
in 7, they should be find with them being enabled in 8.

> If there is (a lot) more push-back on this we'll reconsider it.  But the
> AUTO setting is only appropriate for machines that are "actively being
> watched over".  In -stable branches we start to have people using it for
> large data centers full of machines that are only "partially watched
> over" at best as well as machines stuffed in phone closets in remote
> locations, etc.  Having the AUTO setting for situations like that can
> mean increased time for a reboot to happen, there is extra risk of the
> machine wedging and not rebooting at all (requiring manual intervention
> to get it back up), there is risk of disk space issues, etc.



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