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Date:      Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:32:16 -0600
From:      David Leimbach <leimy2k@mac.com>
To:        Christopher Fowler <cfowler@outpostsentinel.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: IP over IEEE1394?
Message-ID:  <43A441A1-4F17-11D7-A732-0003937E39E0@mac.com>
In-Reply-To: <1046874658.5666.27.camel@cfowler.outpostsentinel.com>

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True... I guess I didn't state my case clearly enough that I think IP  
over firewire
is in itself a good thing for clusters.

ppp connections with it are fine too but not very useful for my line of  
work
which is parallel computing middleware :)

Dave
On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 08:30 AM, Christopher Fowler wrote:

> The beauty of ppp is that you have support in the kernel to do it.
> Else, you are stuck to writing some type of interface driver for the
> kernel.  In the short term, this may not be a workable solution.
>
> On a side note,
>
> I read an article on /. about using firewire + MinDV for backup.  I
> guess I can get some use out of my camera after all.
>
> Chris
>
> On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 09:21, David Leimbach wrote:
>> Yeah... point to point connections are interesting and powerful but IP
>> would
>> be better if we could get it.
>>
>> I wish I knew more about how to implement it. :)
>>
>> Dave
>> On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 08:23 AM, Christopher Fowler wrote:
>>
>>> This may not be a workable solution, but if you can get 2 programs to
>>> send data across the firewire to one another, you could use pppd
>>> through
>>> that tunnel.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 08:25, David Leimbach wrote:
>>>> Interesting... I didn't even know we had Ethernet over firewire :).
>>>>
>>>> Mac OS X and Windows XP both have IP over firewire either working or
>>>> in the works and somewhat usable.  The only one I can claim any
>>>> experience
>>>> with is Mac OS X.  It's somewhat flaky though and you get unreliable
>>>> spikes
>>>> in some basic performance tests I have done with it.
>>>>
>>>> It would be a really interesting value added feature for FreeBSD 5.x
>>>> and could potentially open FBSD up even more to the "cluster" market
>>>> which is somewhere its not as proliferated as linux.
>>>>
>>>> With the advent of firewire2  on the horizon it may be even more
>>>> impressive.
>>>>
>>>> I believe there is even an Oracle product for linux which can  
>>>> cluster
>>>> databases
>>>> over firewire now.  [I don't know if its IP though]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>> On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 01:43 AM, Rossam Souza Silva wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, there is some plan to port NetBSD's implementation of IP over
>>>>> Firewire? I know, we have "Ethernet over Firewire", but like the
>>>>> Linux
>>>>> one, isn't a standard...
>>>>>
>>>>> Just curious.
>>>>>
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>>>>> with."
>>>>>    \/  \(
>>>>>    .\._/_)  Rossam Souza Silva (rss@cin.ufpe.br)
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