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Date:      Wed, 25 Apr 2018 09:39:06 -0400
From:      Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>
To:        Don Lewis <truckman@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Pete French <petefrench@ingresso.co.uk>, nimrodl@gmail.com, eric@vangyzen.net, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd@hda3.com, avg@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ? (with sort of workaround)
Message-ID:  <3bb5fef2-381c-8e1b-21dc-6b8687fb6c1e@sentex.net>
In-Reply-To: <tkrat.5235cb463511b830@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <E1fAaRY-0000nB-Ut@dilbert.ingresso.co.uk> <59b435cf-f4fb-0cc8-3bd0-0765ac0592da@sentex.net> <84898b9f-991c-420a-3ebd-f8c4ad9915e1@ingresso.co.uk> <e41b6aa4-7ac1-44b4-8b88-fd744e31f7e2@sentex.net> <tkrat.5235cb463511b830@FreeBSD.org>

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On 4/24/2018 8:04 PM, Don Lewis wrote:
>>
>> I was able to lock it up with vbox. bhyve was just a little easier to
>> script and also I figured would be good to get VBox out of the mix in
>> case it was something specific to VBox.  I dont recall if I tried it
>> with SMT disabled.  Regardless, on Intel based systems I ran these tests
>> for 72hrs straight without issue.   I can sort of believe hardware issue
>> or flaky motherboard BIOSes (2 ASUS MBs, 1 MSI MB, 3 Ryzen chips), but
>> the fact that two server class MBs from SuperMicro along with an Epyc
>> chip also does the same thing makes me think something specific to
>> FreeBSD and this class of AMD CPU :(
> 
> It would be interesting to test other AMD CPUs.  I think AMD and Intel
> have some differences in the virtualization implementations.

I dont have any Opterons handy unfortunately. However, I have a feeling
its not so much due to virtualization, as I am pretty sure I had a crash
when I wasnt doing any VM testing as well.
Peter Grehan speculated it might have something to do with a lot of IPIs
being generated.  Are there any non VM workloads that will generate many
IPIs ?

	---Mike


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