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Date:      Fri, 2 Dec 2011 08:34:57 -0800 (PST)
From:      Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca>
To:        Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: WITHOUT_PROFILE=yes by default
Message-ID:  <alpine.OSX.1.10.1112020827050.91234@peregrin.orthanc.ca>
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> Nothing is being broken here, just a default being changed.
>
> Users make up a greater proportion of our userbase than developers, so
> sensible defaults for them are more appropriate, right?

This has no impact on non-developer end-users.

For "developer" end-users, this has a huge impact.  You are forcing each 
and every developer who wants to profile their code to modify their 
/etc/src.conf and then 'make buildworld' solely because Max can't be 
bothered to add one line to his own /etc/src.conf.

Developers who profile their code makes up a greater proportion of our 
userbase than 'Max', so sensible defaults for them are more appropriate, 
right?

--lyndon



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