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Date:      Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:06:31 +0100
From:      Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
To:        "Sam Leffler" <sam@errno.com>
Cc:        "Brad Knowles" <brad.knowles@skynet.be>, "Chris BeHanna" <chris@pennasoft.com>, <current@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: 5-STABLE Roadmap
Message-ID:  <a05200f15ba72b588f8cb@[10.0.1.2]>
In-Reply-To: <26dd01c2d438$d37f0810$52557f42@errno.com>
References:  <200302140036.h1E0aK3q071051@freefall.freebsd.org> <a05200f0dba72122437d7@[10.0.1.2]> <25c301c2d3e1$8f2e3e30$52557f42@errno.com> <200302140028.21669.chris@pennasoft.com> <265d01c2d3ec$912bbae0$52557f42@errno.com> <a05200f0fba72952f3afd@[10.0.1.2]> <26dd01c2d438$d37f0810$52557f42@errno.com>

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At 6:53 AM -0800 2003/02/14, Sam Leffler wrote:

>>  $450 for educational organizations.  Wouldn't the FreeBSD
>>  Foundation qualify?
>
>  The point was that they cost $$$.  Not an option for many developers.

	Fair enough.

>                                     Microbenchmarks are valuable here and
>  have already been heavily used.

	Good.  Can we get a more complete list of the microbenchmarks 
used, and perhaps get some consideration for some of the benchmarks 
I've mentioned?

>                                   We're at the point where we need something
>  that exercises the system on a bit larger scale.

	This indicates to me that LMbench might be a good choice for 
internal O/S & networking things, and that perhaps one of IOStone, 
IOBench, or IOZone might be good choices for exercising the disk 
subsystem.

>                                                    Eventually we'll get to
>  the point where large-scale benchmarks are worth running.

	Large-scale, as in?

>  Of course what we really need more than benchmarks are people to actually
>  follow through on the results and fix the problems...

	I hope to be able to help in a more material fashion by being 
able to run some comparison benchmarks on my test system here, but I 
fear that I would not be able to help fix any problems that might be 
identified.

-- 
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
     -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.

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