Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 15:41:34 -0500 From: Paul Mather <paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> To: freebsd-arm <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Showstoppers for RPI3 Message-ID: <9AF20341-AFCC-46BE-A2F2-96CF01655983@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> In-Reply-To: <04e8e290e5d7bb810f76ece4ff33d6e1006e63cd.camel@freebsd.org> References: <20200225175446.GA77976@www.zefox.net> <11951E01-EC13-4FBB-938A-AEB5700C4281@yahoo.com> <CACNAnaEiv5NZZz%2BxfETkhSZ-zbjZ3Ya6z7pyteheP4zj3EK1Gg@mail.gmail.com> <20200226052045.GA79939@www.zefox.net> <E866B6BE-7948-4412-82EF-999A2F8C0DF9@googlemail.com> <04e8e290e5d7bb810f76ece4ff33d6e1006e63cd.camel@freebsd.org>
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On Feb 26, 2020, at 10:33 AM, Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org> wrote: > On Wed, 2020-02-26 at 06:32 +0100, Klaus K=C3=BCchemann via = freebsd-arm > wrote: >> But that=C2=B4s the absolute joke of the century :-) that these = issues >> last so long here on the mailing list=20 >=20 > The current freebsd-arm devs keep pointing out that nobody is > especially interested in maintaining or working on rpi* stuff at all.=20= > Why in the world would you be surprised that nobody is working on it? >=20 > If you want to run freebsd on arm hardware, try using hardware that > people are actually working to support. If you must use crappy rpi > hardware, either run linux on it, or consider paying someone to do the > freebsd support you need. Complaining that nobody will work for free > on hardware they hate working on is just... complaining. Pointlessly. All fair enough. I'm probably in the same boat as Bob Prohaska inasmuch = as I have a couple of Raspberry Pi devices of varying vintages hanging = around. I'm a longtime FreeBSD user, so, naturally, I prefer to run = FreeBSD on these devices, and have done so for a while (with varying = degrees of success/stability). It sounds from the above I shouldn't bother, for pain and misery will = attend me all my days as a result. :-) If Raspberry Pi is a crappy platform and a bad choice to use, = FreeBSD-wise, what is the suggested alternative in the same = low-power/low-price (and Raspberry Pi-like spec) arena? Is it the = Pine64 stuff like the PINE A64, ROCK64, and ROCKPro64?? I'm willing to buy something other than Raspberry Pi (I have a = BeagleBone Black, for example), but I don't want to buy something that = is derided and despised by FreeBSD developers and avoided by them like = the plague. I am not an ARM/SoC or electronics expert, so I feel = unqualified to know what is a "crappy ARM platform." Also, if the true situation with Raspberry Pi is that it is unlikely to = see development within FreeBSD, it would be more honest to deprecate the = platform officially on the FreeBSD site. I'd even go so far as to = suggest not to distribute official images for it, as that carries with = it a hint of blessing and support. Cheers, Paul.
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