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Date:      Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:17:22 -0600 (MDT)
From:      "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        dougb@freebsd.org
Cc:        svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, gabor@freebsd.org, randi@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r209832 - head/usr.sbin/sysinstall
Message-ID:  <20100709.171722.575506241400307165.imp@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1007081623440.17178@yncgbc.qbhto.arg>
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            Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org> writes:
: On Thu, 8 Jul 2010, Randi Harper wrote:
: =

: > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Gabor Kovesdan <gabor@freebsd.org>
: > wrote:
: >> Em 2010.07.08. 23:26, Randi Harper escreveu:
: >>>
: >>> Author: randi
: >>> Date: Thu Jul =A08 21:26:26 2010
: >>> New Revision: 209832
: >>> URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/209832
: >>>
: >>> Log:
: >>> =A0 Revert r209787 pending further discussion.
: >>>
: >>> =A0 Approved by: cperciva (mentor)
: >>>
: >>
: >> Thanks! As I mentioned on IRC, I'll also try to improve this featu=
re,
: >> I'm
: >> just very busy with other projects at the moment.
: =

: Unfortunately the road to the current sysinstall hell was paved with
: just such good intentions. My suggestion is that we all get out of th=
e
: way of the people who are, actually, DOING the work. :)

For this specific option, however, what harm would there be in leaving
well enough alone?  Or, failing that, adding "(experts only)" to it?

: > As was mentioned on IRC, I think a good stopgap would be to at leas=
t
: > remove the upgrade option from the main menu. It's not really an
: > acceptable form of upgrade, it doesn't do an intelligent merging of=

: > config files. It would be better placed in the Fixit submenu if we'=
re
: > going to be leaving it around for a while and renaming it to someth=
ing
: > like "Mangle My Filesystem". :P
: =

: Sounds like a better option would be to just remove it from the menu
: altogether and ifdef 0 the code. That way if $SOMEONE wants to step i=
n
: and fix the existing code within a reasonable period of time (6 month=
s
: or less?) then they will still have that option, but users won't
: suffer in the meantime.

In 6 months, I suspect there will be a very different field of play in
the installer space.

Warner



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