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Date:      Thu, 2 Dec 2004 13:01:38 -0800
From:      Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>
To:        Valentin Nechayev <netch@lucky.net>
Cc:        "current@freebsd.org" <current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: My project wish-list for the next 12 months
Message-ID:  <20041202210138.GA25979@odin.ac.hmc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20041202204735.GA74249@lucky.net>
References:  <41AE3F80.1000506@freebsd.org> <20041202204735.GA74249@lucky.net>

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On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 10:47:36PM +0200, Valentin Nechayev wrote:
>  Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 15:02:40, scottl wrote about "My project wish-list =
for the next 12 months":=20
>=20
> [...]
> > 2.  New installer.  I know some people still consider this a joke, but
> > the reality is that sysinstall is no longer state of the art.  It's
> > fairly good at the simple task that it does, but it's becoming harder
> > and harder to fix bugs and extend functionality in it.  It's also
> > fairly unfriendly to those of us who haven't been using it since 1995.
> > The DFly folks have some very interesting work in this area
> > (www.bsdinstaller.com) and it would be very good to see if we can
> > collaborate with them on it.
>=20
> If we're going to discuss admin-friendiness...
>=20
> - Resplit distribution sets. It's simply shame when unpacking base overwr=
ites
> existing log files (e.g. during binary upgrade).
> At least /etc and /var/log _must_ be separated. Also, I consider openbsd
> scheme to be pleasant: separate build tools set (gcc, binutils, etc.)
> from main functioning set.
> As maximum, convert them into packages and register along with ports.

The log files shouldn't be there at all.  I'm planning to remove all of
them from the distribution sets and do the creation during boot.

-- Brooks

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