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Date:      Fri, 15 Nov 2002 21:16:06 -0800
From:      David Schultz <dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU>
To:        Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@starjuice.net>, Soeren Schmidt <sos@spider.deepcore.dk>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: /dev/acd*t* no longer available in -current?
Message-ID:  <20021116051606.GB16666@HAL9000.homeunix.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1021115112338.10878E-100000@fledge.watson.org>
References:  <20021115091313.GK76728@starjuice.net> <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1021115112338.10878E-100000@fledge.watson.org>

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Thus spake Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG>:
> So one thing we could start doing is have sysinstall's adduser stuff offer
> to place new users in the operator group, and set up the default
> permissions on removable devices such that the operator group has
> read/write access to them (or even just read-access).  This would be
> logically equivilent to placing users in an admin group at instlal on
> Windows or Mac OS X.  Operator access connotes the ability to shut down
> the system in FreeBSD, as well as the ability to dump file systems, etc.
> Another possibility would be to evolve our notion of console user based on
> fbtab some for workstation configurations.

I think putting new users in the operator group, even as a
default-off option, is more liberal than necessary.  Using fbtab
to allow access to removable and audio devices seems like the
right thing to do.

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