Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:37:54 -0600 From: Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> To: John Johnstone <nospamfreebsd.jjohnstone@tridentusa.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: File fransfer from iPad to FreeBSD Message-ID: <2e062740-f159-6888-e656-c7d572b5abbd@kicp.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <ce63b204-cfc5-1306-5ec9-6d41947e4ed8@tridentusa.com> References: <20180216104703.555e9987.freebsd@edvax.de> <44df8585-9874-2614-590a-bea78f54caa4@kicp.uchicago.edu> <A5183971-4781-4463-98FB-73BE1062B105@kreme.com> <54570.108.68.161.195.1518893084.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <F08481AA-EB75-43A1-B418-5568640019C8@kreme.com> <61321.128.135.52.253.1519062986.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <ce63b204-cfc5-1306-5ec9-6d41947e4ed8@tridentusa.com>
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On 02/19/18 14:56, John Johnstone wrote: > On 2/19/18 12:56 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >> On Mon, February 19, 2018 12:20 am, @lbutlr wrote: >>> On 2018-02-17 (11:44 MST), Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> And here is the part where we two will fundamentally disagree. The >>>> truth >>>> is, that Apple store offers you the latest version of given >>>> application. >>> >>> But that is simply not true. There are plenty of applications that I can >>> reinstall on my old device that does not run the current OS, and I will >>> get the version for the OS I am running, not the newest version of the >>> application. >>> >>> Apple cannot give you a version of an application that the developer has >>> removed from the App store, no matter how badly you want it, as it is >>> not >>> theirs to give. >> >> I wonder if you could teach me how to install older version of some >> application through apple store for which apple store already carries >> newer version of application. What do I do on my iOS device (iPhone or >> iPad) to choose different version of application than the one that >> pops up >> in the search of app store. >> >> I don't care which application you choose as example, I just would >> like to >> follow your step by step instruction. Once I am able to see one >> (whichever) application for which I can choose one of two different >> versions, I will happily admit that my statement was wrong. And I will >> learn something. But so far I haven't seen the way to install older >> version of some application (the version that was released when older >> version on iOS was actively supported). But, of course, I did check all >> applications that are in apple store. >> >> Thanks. >> Valeri > > An iOS device can be used with or without iTunes. Without iTunes, apps > install on the device directly from the App store and only the latest > app version is available with whatever iOS dependency it has from the > developer. Some developers create new apps with a different name which > allows them to have similar apps in the store with different iOS > dependencies. > > With older versions of iTunes (e.g. 10.6.2), apps are downloaded from > the App store into iTunes and stored locally in the iTunes app library. > Syncing with the iOS device with iTunes installs the app from the iTunes > library. The local storing of apps in the iTunes app library was > removed in more recent versions of iTunes. > > When restoring from a backup apps are restored from either the app > library with older versions of iTunes or directly from the App store > with the newer iTunes versions or in the case of iCloud backups. You > then get whatever app version is available in the store at the time you > do the restore. > > If this subject is important for someone they need to do some careful > research outside of this mailing list. Because the behavior has changed > over time and varies with the different scenarios this is an area that > is not fully understood by many people. > Thanks John. I know the options you listed. The situation I had with one person doesn't fit into them: device was wiped, but we hadn't back up of it... And I do agree, even though I stand by my original statement, I will stop arguing here, mo matter what someone may say. This mail list is not the place for it. My apologies that I didn't realize it earlier. Valeri > - > John J. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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