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Date:      Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:32:30 -0800
From:      Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>
To:        Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>
Cc:        John Reynolds~ <jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com>, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: What does "Voxware still supported in 4.0" mean exactly? 
Message-ID:  <200003231832.KAA01282@mass.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:18:09 %2B0100." <v04220809b5000f938273@[195.238.1.121]> 

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> At 10:01 AM -0800 2000/3/23, Mike Smith wrote:
> 
> >  At last count, I think we've bought, borrowed and cajoled about twenty or
> >  so cards and sent them off to Cameron.  I don't know what makes you think
> >  that we're _entirely_ stupid or greedy, especially since it's not like
> >  it's a secret or anything that we do this regularly.
> 
> 	Here's another idea -- make a list of cards that you know of that 
> there are problems with, but that you guys can't find.  Some of us 
> might happen to frequent computer shows or have some old hardware we 
> can scrounge up, and might be willing to give that to you (to give to 
> Cameron), or trade them for X future issues of the CD-ROM sets.

Cameron has this list; either he or Bill Swingle ought to be able to put 
it somewhere fairly prominent.

> 	I certainly don't mind spending $25 (or $50, or $100) to help 
> support the FreeBSD project, and I don't really care too much how I 
> spend that money.  I'd prefer to spend it in a way that materially 
> helps the project, and it seems to me that helping to find and donate 
> bleeding-edge or ancient hardware for which we do not have good 
> support might be a better way to do that than to buy a subscription 
> of coasters.

It's the donation of your time and eyes that _really_ counts here, and it
would be _greatly_ appreciated.

> 	A central database done with PHP3+MySQL of hardware you're 
> specifically looking for shouldn't be too hard to implement, should 
> it?

Probably not; it's just a question of finding someone to develop and 
maintain such an animal.  The BSD Driver Database goes a long way towards 
this, but I haven't seen much activity from M. Yancey lately.

-- 
\\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\  Mike Smith
\\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself,  \\  msmith@freebsd.org
\\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime.             \\  msmith@cdrom.com




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