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Date:      Tue, 4 Aug 1998 16:51:01 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org>
Cc:        Randy Philipp <cphilipp@pop500.gsfc.nasa.gov>, Doug White <dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu>, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Neomagic chipset - is it a hardware problem ?
Message-ID:  <19980804165101.Y25942@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <199808040704.IAA25263@awfulhak.org>; from Brian Somers on Tue, Aug 04, 1998 at 08:04:28AM %2B0100
References:  <199807252032.VAA00175@awfulhak.org> <199808040704.IAA25263@awfulhak.org>

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On Tuesday,  4 August 1998 at  8:04:28 +0100, Brian Somers wrote:
>> [.....]
>>> As for sending you my binary, I would like to test it myself before
>>> I start giving it out to people.
>>
>> I've built this driver into XF86_SVGA (albeit with all the other
>> drivers too - rather than just ``generic'') and I can get X up at 16
>> bits in 800x600, *but* I get a lot of horizontal lines across my
>> screen - kind of like a huge thin horizontal smear (it's not there
>> when an empty xterm takes up the entire screen, but when I add some
>> text, I start getting the lines).
>>
>> I've tried changing the Frequency from 40.0 - to no avail.  This has
>> obviously got nothing to do with it.
>>
>> I know very little about X - perhaps someone can say ``Ahh, those
>> horizontal lines are because....'' (and fill in the ....) ?
>>
>> FWIW, the text in the xterm is crystal clear at 16 bpp, but the
>> characters are like blobs of mud at 8 bpp.
>
> I've found out more about this flickering problem.... it only occurs
> when the laptop is physically warm - the warmer, the more flickering.
> If the machine sleeps for ~15 minutes, it'll wake up with a perfect
> picture and that picture will start to deteriorate with the building
> heat.  If I switch the display off for 15 minutes it makes no
> difference.
>
> This is all  under load.  If the machine is idle it lasts a lot
> longer (the fan is more effective I guess....)
>
> Has anyone else seen this problem ?  I'm pretty much convinced that
> it's a hardware problem now, so I'll probably return the machine
> (second time) nearer the end of the week.

I don't know too much about laptop displays, but if that were to
happen on a glass monitor, I'd guess you're driving it out of spec.  I
know you can fry monitors; maybe you can fry laptop displays.  In your
position I'd seriously consider reviewing the display parameters.

Greg
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