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Date:      Thu, 01 Aug 2002 14:09:15 -0700
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        Antony T Curtis <antony.t.curtis@ntlworld.com>
Cc:        arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: OpenSSL vs. -lmd
Message-ID:  <3D49A37B.BA3C2982@mindspring.com>
References:  <200207311641.g6VGfRWj099655@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020801143059.GA536@nevermind.kiev.ua> <200208011151.55478.mi%2Bmx@aldan.algebra.com> <3D498FB4.6987B696@mindspring.com> <20020801195640.GQ26797@madman.nectar.cc> <3D4998F9.A736EA85@mindspring.com> <3D499CF3.4030601@ntlworld.com>

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Antony T Curtis wrote:
> This is why I would like a FreeBSD-Lite... Which is just the core
> essentials of FreeBSD with everything else (gcc, bind, bash, perl,
> openssl, openssh etc) coming from the ports.
> 
> If I had the time, I would be so sorely tempted to roll my own *BSD
> distribution based on that idea.... FreeBSD without the fluff.
> 
> I'd have to roll some kind of binary distribution channel as there is no
> system compiler ;)

There have been a lot of us who have felt this way.

The main thing that prevents us from doing this (admittedly,
not very strongly prevents it; it's just a barrier to entry)
is that we would not be allowed to call the resulting CDROM
"FreeBSD".


After the recent packaging discussion, which mostly boiled
down to "Yep, it's a problem" and "Is `intractable' such a
bad word, really?" and "This new library which we've been
saying is `almost done' and `will solve the world hunger'
since 1996 is almost done... AND solves world hunger!  This
time for sure!", it seems that the only way this can be fixed
is to take the source code and rework the distribution system
from scratch, from the ground up.

Small wonder that Jordan went to work for Apple, which did
basically exactly that...

-- Terry

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