Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 12:20:47 -0500 From: Christopher Masto <chris@netmonger.net> To: "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@newsguy.com> Cc: cvs-all@freebsd.org, cvs-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/vm phys_pager.c Message-ID: <20001208122047.T90192@netmonger.net> In-Reply-To: <3A30A286.30E102EC@newsguy.com>; from dcs@newsguy.com on Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 05:57:42PM %2B0900 References: <20001205145908.K8051@fw.wintelcom.net> <Pine.SUN.3.91.1001205180108.24320A-100000@pcnet1.pcnet.com> <20001205152054.M8051@fw.wintelcom.net> <3A2EFBC4.EE8D90B1@newsguy.com> <20001207173453.A18103@netmonger.net> <3A30A286.30E102EC@newsguy.com>
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On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 05:57:42PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > > You've got the right argument, but you've picked the wrong example > > to apply it to. There has to be _some_ flexibility in the rules, > > and it would be hard to find a better example of where "shakeout > > in -current" has no value. > > It is very, very bad when -stable world breaks. It tarnishes our > reputation, increases support workload, and make people less confident > in the process. I actually agree that he should have waited, since this was not a critically-needed patch. But I also think that the way you guys jumped up his butt was inappropriate. I think it's the severity of the reaction to such a small offense that caused this "discussion" to break out. "You're both right." > Perhaps I see the rules in a different light than many others. Well, you (and others) certainly seem to feel that any breakage in -stable is a capital offense. I suppose my take on it is that -current is different from -stable. Testing things first in -current is no guarantee that they will not break when MFCed. I think of -current as a testing ground for unusual, incomplete, or otherwise dangerous ideas, but I also think that -stable needs to have ongoing development. Anything that breaks should be minor, and should be fixed immediately, but I don't see how you can guarantee that -stable will _always_ work. In my world, people looking for that kind of stability should stick to releases. In any event, as someone who is responsible for only a handful of lines of code in FreeBSD, I will be quiet now so you can all get back to making -current work again. :-) -- Christopher Masto Senior Network Monkey NetMonger Communications chris@netmonger.net info@netmonger.net http://www.netmonger.net Free yourself, free your machine, free the daemon -- http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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