Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 01:22:52 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> To: Jerry <freebsd.user@seibercom.net> Cc: Carmel <carmel_ny@hotmail.com>, Ashish SHUKLA <ashish@freebsd.org>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GUI for AC Message-ID: <20100718004558.P86988@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20100717120023.BD53710656DC@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20100717120023.BD53710656DC@hub.freebsd.org>
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In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 319, Issue 10, Message: 18 On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 07:48:38 -0400 Jerry <freebsd.user@seibercom.net> wrote: > On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:04:56 +1000 (EST) > Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> articulated: > > > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 319, Issue 9, Message: 24 > > On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 07:26:18 -0400 Jerry <freebsd.user@seibercom.net> wrote: > > > On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:17:25 +0530 > > > Ashish SHUKLA <ashish@FreeBSD.org> articulated: > > > > > > > I've not used KDE since they released KDE 4, but IIRC, KDE 3.5.x used to have > > > > ACL support integrated in it[1] by default. Are you sure there isn't any such > > > > setting you probably missing during compilation in KDE 4.x ? > > > > > > > > References: > > > > [1] http://www.flickr.com/photos/wahjava/507889368/#/ > > > > > > No really. You cannot add users or change individual user's permissions > > > via KDE's default file browser. Obviously, I can accomplish most of > > > what I want to do from the command line, abet more slowly and error > > > prone. > > > > Does that represent a regression in KDE4 from KDE3.5.x? Does anybody know if this is or is not the case with KDE4? > > > Having read up on a few Googled items, it appears that FreeBSD has not > > > matured sufficiently yet to allow full integration of ACLs. Supposedly, > > > 9.x will offer better integration. > > > > Integration with what? KDE? > > > > Perhaps I googled a little harder Jerry, but thanks to Robert Watson's > > TrustedBSD framework, FreeBSD has supported POSIX 1.e ACLs since 5.1 and > > NFSv4 ACLs in 8-STABLE for quite a while now; they'll be in 8.1-RELEASE > > for both UFS and ZFS filesystems. > > > > Maybe it's the predominantly Linux-centric KDE that has not yet matured > > sufficiently to include support for FreeBSD ACLs? As Carmel memtioned, > > the (as usual) excellent article by Dru Lavigne on using FreeBSD ACLs at > > http://onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/09/22/FreeBSD_Basics.html demonstrated > > using Gnome's Nautilus enhanced by the port sysutils/eiciel - in 2005. > > > > Among the many other useful results from googling 'FreeBSD ACLs': > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_control_list > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/NFSv4_ACLs > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/Releng/8.1TODO/ > > Per wiki: "support so called POSIX.1e ACLs, based on an early POSIX > draft that was abandoned". Let's have that quote from the wikipedia page in a little more context: "Most of the Unix and Unix-like operating systems (e.g. Linux,[1] BSD, or Solaris) support so called POSIX.1e ACLs, based on an early POSIX draft that was abandoned. Many of them, for example AIX, Mac OS X beginning with version 10.4 ("Tiger"), or Solaris with ZFS filesystem[2], support NFSv4 ACLs, which are part of the NFSv4 standard. FreeBSD 9-CURRENT supports NFSv4 ACLs on both UFS and ZFS file systems; full support is expected to be backported to version 8.1[3]. There is an experimental implementation of NFSv4 ACLs for Linux.[4]" > My original statement is still valid, FreeBSD has still not released a > stable version of its OS that fully supports the latest acl standards. Ignoring the fact that anyone running 8-STABLE has had these for a good while, yes, that will be true of FreeBSD -RELEASE versions for days or perhaps weeks yet, regarding the newer NFSv4 ACLs. Can you provide a link to where 'the latest ACL standards' are defined, and say which, if any, OS you consider 'fully integrated' with them? Thanks, Ian
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