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Date:      Sun, 20 May 2018 15:08:00 +0100
From:      Edward Tomasz =?utf-8?Q?Napiera=C5=82a?= <trasz@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Harry Schmalzbauer <freebsd@omnilan.de>
Cc:        freebsd-stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: removable storage usability, devd, hald and X11-desktop in general
Message-ID:  <20180520140800.GA6371@brick>
In-Reply-To: <5beffba2-d2d5-689a-9cb1-054379f55adf@omnilan.de>
References:  <5beffba2-d2d5-689a-9cb1-054379f55adf@omnilan.de>

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On 0519T2035, Harry Schmalzbauer wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> after 10 years I replaced my personal desktop machine (FreeBSD8 -> 
> FreeBSD12).
> While aware of OS progress, I haven't followed any development on the 
> X11 planet.
> 
> To my surprise, things were in better shape 10 years ago, regarding 
> desktop usability.
> 
> Biggest question: How are useres expected to handle removable media?
> 
> I'm a happy user of autofs(5) in several environments (mostly for NFS 
> mounts), but I'm not aware of any helper tool which enables _users_ to 
> unmount before pulling the UFD.
> I've heard of PC-BSD and Lumina (see later why I haven't really tried 
> out the modern "light" desktops) and I think I remember having read they 
> utilize devd(8).  But again, how to unmount?

Me, I just use three second timeout for autounmountd, like this:

autounmountd_flags="-t 3 -r 3".




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