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Date:      Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:48:44 -0500
From:      "Aryeh M. Friedman" <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com>
To:        =?UTF-8?B?RGFnLUVybGluZyBTbcO4cmdyYXY=?= <des@des.no>
Cc:        Wilko Bulte <wb@freebie.xs4all.nl>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Dominic Fandrey <kamikaze@bsdforen.de>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD's problems as seen by the BSDForen.de community
Message-ID:  <4786223C.2040302@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <86y7axhjzm.fsf@ds4.des.no>
References:  <88854.1199953554@critter.freebsd.dk> <4785D9CB.5080909@gmail.com> <4785E8A0.30806@gmail.com> <20080110110052.GB10155@freebie.xs4all.nl> <4786058F.8080101@gmail.com> <86y7axhjzm.fsf@ds4.des.no>

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Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> "Aryeh M. Friedman" <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> writes:
>> One thing that FOSS (BSD or GPL) has historical had issues doing
>> cleanly is seperating free software from free beer.   The first
>> being a very important goal and the second a unfair side effect
>> of thinking that open source by definition means free use of the
>> products.
>
> Speak for yourself.
>
>> Yes the source should be avaible to everyone but as far I can
>> tell that does not automatically and should not translate into
>> not having some responibility to the community that created the
>> project in the first place.... my approach (along with 3 other
>> small software vendors) is to have a requirement to contribute
>> back to the community in some form (in work or help support those
>> doing the work), namely it is free software but not free beer.
>
> Excellent idea, if your goal is to kill the project.

Now to really get some flames... I think the fall of the USSR proves
you wrong on that.... namely small groups can afford to do stuff this
way but not large and critical projects
>
> DES


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Aryeh M. Friedman
FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools.
http://www.flosoft-systems.com
Developer, not business, friendly.

"Free software != Free beer"

Blog:
 
http://www.flosoft-systems.com/flosoft_systems_community/blogs/aryeh/index.php
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