Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 13:57:52 -0700 From: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> To: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> Cc: Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@freebsd.org>, ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Alberto Mijares <amijaresp@gmail.com>, freebsd-current Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Andreas Nilsson <andrnils@gmail.com>, Navdeep Parhar <nparhar@gmail.com> Subject: Re: HOWTO articles for migrating from Linux to FreeBSD, especially for pkg? Message-ID: <CAJ-VmomejC3K7hy1DnwXncbY_H13U17gEpezhK5v%2B_KHNPHR=A@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20140717205445.GC28314@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> References: <CAG=rPVcyqq2072%2BgF_X91BocxykJB6%2BU0cMhaNexxfVFpVqUbA@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-Vmo=p6-7KCL8C09O4dPq04pitW5wDbtsDAyz-u4Qtr7rpRA@mail.gmail.com> <CAGZBXN8-Gq1=w8SBHCw26ZX4a29KHBx%2B4FV9XGK1HJiCOGuJ9A@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-Vmo=8uAXqmX8D%2BoP%2B63dHWVKN6cn8wBH0HNsVmUciNRF1BA@mail.gmail.com> <53C82EC4.8060304@gmail.com> <CAPS9%2BSuswkJNuwhT=o%2B7sBQpbaN0-jhnRK5drugqZw54%2BqzgzA@mail.gmail.com> <20140717205445.GC28314@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>
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On 17 July 2014 13:54, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar <nparhar@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>> > > On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares <amijaresp@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>> Hi!
>> > >>>
>> > >>> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
>> > >>> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
>> > >>> can't just be installed and not be enabled, because that's a bit of a
>> > >>> problem;
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> No. Please NEVER do that! The user must be able to edit the files and
>> > >> start the service by himself.
>> > >
>> > > Cool, so what's the single line command needed to type in to start a
>> > > given package service?
>> >
>> > Aren't sysrc(8) and service(8) for this kind of stuff?
>> >
>>
>> They sure are.
>>
>> Well, pkg install $service ; sysrc ${service}_enable="YES" would do.
>> Although some services have different names than the packge, which is sort
>> of annoying.
>
> Maybe service needs to be extended (seriously sysrc ${service}_enable="YES" is
> not user friendly) we have service -l that list the services, maybe a service
> ${service} on that create /etc/rc.conf.d/${service} with ${service}_enable="YES"
> in it and service ${service} off to remove it
>
> maybe service -l could also be extended to show the current status (maybe with a
> -v switch)
>
> but for sure having the service off by default is a good idea :)
Yeah, maybe having it populate an entry of service_enable="NO" for now .
It's even more unclear-ish - it's not obvious which options control
services and which ones are configuration things. We don't call it
service_<xxx>_enable, right?
-a
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